Consistency mods, Consistency.

Hello guys, hopefully everybody is having a good day. I have a little problem with mod's behavior recently.

b0nker says it once, I'll repeat again: Be consistent in your actions.

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How is totally right for a mod to explain on whole public channel someone's case yet when asked for his behaviors in private chat decline with the "Mind your business" reply?

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Also, how is that any new mod have the ability to disable someone from playing the game (ban)? This is a serious tool and shouldn't be used without any serious deal.

By the way, some people might think this type of actions should'be discussed in PM. Well, I did Pm'ed the mod in question. Yet he decide to ignore my message. I had the clear experience that going to another mod, as they suggest, never works and the other mod is probably going to tell you "Talk to him". This makes me think that mods probably doesn't trust on the players.

Rule #14 should'be removed. Mods who does bad actions should'be defame in public. Is either this, or answer our PMs. Maybe some mods doesn't know what the rest of their team do. If we cannot get order by a respectful relation, then at least let us inflict terror to those type of mods by defaming them in public.

I am sad to have this kind of though.


For sum up, we are having more activity among mods, good job I saw 6 online at the same moment. Too bad still only one in Asian time, but this will get fixed with the time I hope.

Cheers, clovis.

Personally, I just want this section of the rules and guidelines removed:

"There will always be areas that will be handled on a per incident basis by moderators. Even when not specified, staff has the sole right and final judgement of how to interpret and apply these Rules and Guidelines to any specific circumstance and situation, including proper punishment. The rules may, at any time, be applied or changed by any moderator or admin if they feel right."

Really, moderators? Really?
If it's allowed, it's bloody well allowed. If it isn't, it isn't. At least post a list of precedents that we can use as reference somewhere so that the player base doesn't get totally variable moderator decisions simply because that decision "feel right" to that particular moderator.

Napisano od International, 26.05.2015 at 07:57

post a list of precedents that we can use as reference somewhere so that the player base doesn't get totally variable moderator decisions simply because that decision "feel right" to that particular moderator.

Napisano od Goblin, 26.05.2015 at 07:57

Yes goblin WHY ARE WE NOT FUNDING THIS?

Are we calling a revolution in the constitution of atwar?

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 07:42

I have a little problem with mod's behavior recently.

lmfao how many times have i seen this with so many people, writing a thread about it won't do shit mate nothing will change

Napisano od Trooper21, 26.05.2015 at 09:47

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 07:42

I have a little problem with mod's behavior recently.

lmfao how many times have i seen this with so many people, writing a thread about it won't do shit mate nothing will change

Suggest me another alternative then... I already say PM'ing that mod or other mod won't work. PM'ing Ivan seems like the best option, though I don't think it he have time for this type of stuff. I've Pm'ed him in other times but no reply...

Edit: Posting doesn't work as well, but at least the community can know what happened. Who knows? Maybe posting does work...

Napisano od QueueUp, 26.05.2015 at 09:40

Are we calling a revolution in the constitution of atwar?

No, merely reform. Revolutions almost never end well.

Violent force is not a good way to realize our dream of a fair and equal AtWar! Time and pressure, my friend, time and pressure is what we will use.

After all, I have plenty of both.

The moment they remove your elo... nope they wont say anything they will just remove it withoud even speaking with you.
Full support.

Well, here we go again... the only ones that can edit rules are the mods, they're the ones that judge as well and they are the ones that actually debate about these rules (we can only give ideas about editing some rules, no real power). It's like an absolute monarchy without distinction of powers. Therefor, a better solution I guess, would either be to have more participation from regular players (which can lead to bad decissions, depending on the people that participate) or divide the chores mods do (which should be more efficient yet more authoritarian). A couple of mods should urgently edit the rules so that they become updated, just my opinion, in order to make them as objective and fair as possible. Also, it should be notified when these rules change and what do they change. Some specifications should be made in them right away.

PD: Clovis, it's no wonder that mods don't take you seriously, you talk like a politician in the middle of your electoral campaign XD

The moment when they think they are bosses and ban for no reason and cant explain why.
Full support

Napisano od RaulPB, 26.05.2015 at 10:34

PD: Clovis, it's no wonder that mods don't take you seriously, you talk like a politicianin the middle of your electoral campaign leader in critical moments XD

Edited for you! xD.

@That suggestion, is something we can start with. But it sounds like the council idea that I just told you in another thread...

@Updating the rules: A mod is going to start the standardization soon. All he need is motivation... lot of motivation. By the way, a guideline would'be great instead of a bored set of rules.

Above alleged meme of mine is nothing more then a falsification ...i have no alliance with this insurgents!

4 mods see, but no reply, even the mod implied. I guess I should start to point out names...

After Clovis actually points out a name

Remove spart from mod

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 12:31

Yes, forum mods and chat mods like in Kongregate... Suggested it yet the main idea of that thread got dismissed pretty fast by Pulse (I think).

It wouldn't be like that, more like a separation like in real life: legislature, executive, judiciary. Though I'm not sure if that would actually work. If it's a stupid idea, just ignore me XD

Some mods would be in charge of gathering different ideas for rules. Others would be in charge of approving and writting them. And finally others would be in charge of judging players and imposing punishments. This way, new rules would reach easier to mods, would be discussed between them way faster and then, since only a couple of them would impose punishments, they would likely be more consistent / coherent.

Oh my god. If i had known a surplus of prs mails and demands from clovis were part and parcel of becoming a mod i would not have accepted the role. Yes clovis i ignored your mails and no it is not your buisness as to the details of pavles ban unless a mod or admin decides to disclose such info to you, whether via public chats or elsewhere.

Furthermore, ive been rather busy the past few days not even having the time to play my tourney games or compete for seasonal elo. The trivial nonsense you have been bugging me about is extremely low on my list of priorities. I've 7 mails from you from the past 2 days alone. I am this close to putting you on ignore.

Here we go again..

>When I made threads about this people told me to stop complain and change my attitude
> Now these same people make the same threads with the same stuff in it, and want people to understand them.

Much hypocrisy ^^

Sir Clovis, why don't you just follow the rules? Mods usually leave you alone when you do.

I think it's very simple... let the mods do whatever they have to do... it really is not our business what they do. I think they were given position for a reason, ok?

And yes, I am having a good day. I hope you are too, try not to take this game so serious.

Ayy Lmao

Dummies still trying to justify their ELO farming.

He doesnt have details and proofs of ban,thats why he ignored xd

Napisano od Permamuted, 26.05.2015 at 13:00

Oh my god. If i had known a surplus of prs mails and demands from clovis were part and parcel of becoming a mod i would not have accepted the role. Yes clovis i ignored your mails and no it is not your buisness as to the details of pavles ban unless a mod or admin decides to disclose such info to you, whether via public chats or elsewhere.

Furthermore, ive been rather busy the past few days not even having the time to play my tourney games or compete for seasonal elo. The trivial nonsense you have been bugging me about is extremely low on my list of priorities. I've 7 mails from you from the past 2 days alone. I am this close to putting you on ignore.

I'm agreeing with Lao here: player A has no fundamental right on knowing player B's punishment, unless player B decides to share them.

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 12:38

Lao and Pulse seem to sum up quite nicely why I think you talk like a politician during the electoral campaign always trying to find someone else to blame and giving things epic relevance XD

Napisano od RaulPB, 26.05.2015 at 16:25

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 12:38

Lao and Pulse seem to sum up quite nicely why I think you talk like a politician during the electoral campaign always trying to find someone else to blame and giving things epic relevance XD

Both ignored something that was highlighted, I wonder why.

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 07:42

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How is totally right for a mod to explain on whole public channel someone's case yet when asked for his behaviors in private chat decline with the "Mind your business" reply?

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Are you people for real. Don't abuse global or insult other players and then you won't get a mute or ban. It's simple.

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 21:00

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How is totally right for a mod to explain on whole public channel someone's case yet when asked for his behaviors in private chat decline with the "Mind your business" reply?

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how is it wrong? Waffel asked me in a gamechat why pavle was banned, i began to explain, waffel cut me off and went off on a rant on how mods should do this and mods should do that, i decided it wasnt worth continuing. Then you began mailing me determined to find something wrong with the decision. It is none of your buisness. Why dont you mail pavle? He'll gladly inform you that hes totally innocent and it is because i hate him and tito told me to do it.

Tito if you are reading this, if you've any other requests let me know.

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 21:00

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 07:42

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How is totally right for a mod to explain on whole public channel someone's case yet when asked for his behaviors in private chat decline with the "Mind your business" reply?

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Clovis, laochra didnt even tell anything to me.. I asked who pavle was mocking about in threads and laochra told it was about him. I asked why he was banned and like laochra said above, I cut him off before he could even say something. I dont know where you get this from? o_o?
I wonder how many alts were needed to get in ''top 5 players''

I mean like, why do you make a thread about this when a mod doesnt give you private information? Like lol. And people calling me an attention whore... atleast most of my threads actually are about a real problem inside this game instead of those 5th remakes of some bullshitters around here.

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 09:50

Napisano od Trooper21, 26.05.2015 at 09:47

Napisano od clovis1122, 26.05.2015 at 07:42

I have a little problem with mod's behavior recently.

lmfao how many times have i seen this with so many people, writing a thread about it won't do shit mate nothing will change

Suggest me another alternative then... I already say PM'ing that mod or other mod won't work. PM'ing Ivan seems like the best option, though I don't think it he have time for this type of stuff. I've Pm'ed him in other times but no reply...

Edit: Posting doesn't work as well, but at least the community can know what happened. Who knows? Maybe posting does work...

Did you not read my post? "nothing will change" and you have proved me right again. You've wrote PMs to mods, you've tried PMing Ivan but you aren't getting any reply back. Call me a pessimist but creating threads like this you're only adding fuel to the fire, annoying them even further. Sorry mate but the truth hurts, sadly.

Napisano od Skanderbeg, 27.05.2015 at 08:59

Napisano od Permamuted, 27.05.2015 at 01:31

Tito if you are reading this, if you've any other requests let me know.

Well, it was about time they figure out i was standing behind everything for the whole time. Im the Rothschild of Atwar, moderators are my bankers.


p.s.
My name is not Tito, i had that name for few months, i dont get it why people still stick to it, its not even my main name.

Those 8 days were waste to spamm ur history names with USAUSAUSAUSASUASUASAUSAUSAU, I still think tito suits you best <3

Napisano od Skanderbeg, 27.05.2015 at 11:18

Napisano od Waffel, 27.05.2015 at 10:38

Those 8 days were waste to spamm ur history names with USAUSAUSAUSASUASUASAUSAUSAU, I still think tito suits you best <3

8 days? Wouldnt know, it was long time ago, like a year(summer or autumn 2014). It wasnt spam, just changing name to remove old ones from 2012 and 2013.
Tito was a roleplay name while i was in JNA because he was the leader in RL, but today fascist/nationalist croats and serbs hate him because of communism or something. I think thats why they repeat it, they like to point fingers and blame others.

Every second Latin American is called Tito, it isnt special rare name.

uh.. okay