Rank limits and how they kill 3v3s

Napisano od The Tactician, 05.10.2014 at 02:10

Napisano od Guest, 04.10.2014 at 22:00

The last and arguably most important reason is simply "why". Why would I want to spend my time trying to teach some random stranger the basics of 3v3, who then might or might not do what I say? This is a game after all correct? I came to play the game not teach the game. Why should I go through all the trouble of teaching someone the game of which there is a possibility of that person not even taking his own effort to learn?

Once you teach this person 3v3 that's an extra competitive player to play with. You're adding to a section of the game that has few people, to the extent that everybody knows everybody's play style. You're gaining potential allies, friends, and clan mates ingame. By teaching even just one person you're ultimately helping your own gaming experience and influencing others to do the same. If each 3v3 player goes to a new player and tell them ''Hey, this is 3v3. Its competitive and fun. This is how you play it, but it needs practice and dedication. Are you up for that?'' I do agree with the possibility of the new player not making an effort or just simply not choosing to play 3v3. But hey, its their decision, at least you've showed him the way to a new gaming type and done what you had to do. Just make sure the player is dedicated to learning before you take him in.

I agree that the rewards of bringing up a new player into the 3v3 community is well worth the effort of training that player. But there aren't that many people willing to learn and train over again just to be proficient at the game. Literally every time a noob joins a 3v3 and picks the wrong country the immediate reaction is *shrugs* "omg kick noob and/or remake". I have never seen players staying back and trying to teach the noob. I'm sure it happens regardless but it doesn't happen often. It's a rare occasion from my observation.
And the reason why is because when joining a 3v3 for players already active in the 3v3 community their goal isn't to train newbies. Their goal, generally speaking, is to play the game and get better at it. Sure teaching a new player the ins and outs of a 3v3 can be rewarding in the future but given the amount of players willing to learn is very small, it's a barrier for people to take their own time to share their knowledge with a stranger.

Napisano od Guest, 05.10.2014 at 11:00

Napisano od The Tactician, 05.10.2014 at 02:10

Napisano od Guest, 04.10.2014 at 22:00

The last and arguably most important reason is simply "why". Why would I want to spend my time trying to teach some random stranger the basics of 3v3, who then might or might not do what I say? This is a game after all correct? I came to play the game not teach the game. Why should I go through all the trouble of teaching someone the game of which there is a possibility of that person not even taking his own effort to learn?

Once you teach this person 3v3 that's an extra competitive player to play with. You're adding to a section of the game that has few people, to the extent that everybody knows everybody's play style. You're gaining potential allies, friends, and clan mates ingame. By teaching even just one person you're ultimately helping your own gaming experience and influencing others to do the same. If each 3v3 player goes to a new player and tell them ''Hey, this is 3v3. Its competitive and fun. This is how you play it, but it needs practice and dedication. Are you up for that?'' I do agree with the possibility of the new player not making an effort or just simply not choosing to play 3v3. But hey, its their decision, at least you've showed him the way to a new gaming type and done what you had to do. Just make sure the player is dedicated to learning before you take him in.

I agree that the rewards of bringing up a new player into the 3v3 community is well worth the effort of training that player. But there aren't that many people willing to learn and train over again just to be proficient at the game. Literally every time a noob joins a 3v3 and picks the wrong country the immediate reaction is *shrugs* "omg kick noob and/or remake". I have never seen players staying back and trying to teach the noob. I'm sure it happens regardless but it doesn't happen often. It's a rare occasion from my observation.
And the reason why is because when joining a 3v3 for players already active in the 3v3 community their goal isn't to train newbies. Their goal, generally speaking, is to play the game and get better at it. Sure teaching a new player the ins and outs of a 3v3 can be rewarding in the future but given the amount of players willing to learn is very small, it's a barrier for people to take their own time to share their knowledge with a stranger.

I agree there is a lack of willing players that want to learn/teach. But oh well what can ya do, just do your best in encouraging people I guess.

Napisano od The Tactician, 05.10.2014 at 11:32

Napisano od Guest, 05.10.2014 at 11:00

Napisano od The Tactician, 05.10.2014 at 02:10

Napisano od Guest, 04.10.2014 at 22:00

The last and arguably most important reason is simply "why". Why would I want to spend my time trying to teach some random stranger the basics of 3v3, who then might or might not do what I say? This is a game after all correct? I came to play the game not teach the game. Why should I go through all the trouble of teaching someone the game of which there is a possibility of that person not even taking his own effort to learn?

Once you teach this person 3v3 that's an extra competitive player to play with. You're adding to a section of the game that has few people, to the extent that everybody knows everybody's play style. You're gaining potential allies, friends, and clan mates ingame. By teaching even just one person you're ultimately helping your own gaming experience and influencing others to do the same. If each 3v3 player goes to a new player and tell them ''Hey, this is 3v3. Its competitive and fun. This is how you play it, but it needs practice and dedication. Are you up for that?'' I do agree with the possibility of the new player not making an effort or just simply not choosing to play 3v3. But hey, its their decision, at least you've showed him the way to a new gaming type and done what you had to do. Just make sure the player is dedicated to learning before you take him in.

I agree that the rewards of bringing up a new player into the 3v3 community is well worth the effort of training that player. But there aren't that many people willing to learn and train over again just to be proficient at the game. Literally every time a noob joins a 3v3 and picks the wrong country the immediate reaction is *shrugs* "omg kick noob and/or remake". I have never seen players staying back and trying to teach the noob. I'm sure it happens regardless but it doesn't happen often. It's a rare occasion from my observation.
And the reason why is because when joining a 3v3 for players already active in the 3v3 community their goal isn't to train newbies. Their goal, generally speaking, is to play the game and get better at it. Sure teaching a new player the ins and outs of a 3v3 can be rewarding in the future but given the amount of players willing to learn is very small, it's a barrier for people to take their own time to share their knowledge with a stranger.

I agree there is a lack of willing players that want to learn/teach. But oh well what can ya do, just do your best in encouraging people I guess.

I think we can help solve that problem though. At least problem of picking the wrong country and 1st turn wf'ing.
I'm thinking about creating a poster image of the most basic do's and don't in 3v3. I've sent links to newbies before on Desu's guide to 3v3 but the over reaction I get was tl/dr or "it's to complicated I don't understand".

Basically it'll be a picture highlighting the do's: country picks, strats for those country picks, most basic/simple expansions...etc. and don't: 1'st turn wf'ing, wrong country picks, hoarding inf inside walled cities, RA tank spam...etc.

What do you think?

Good idea!

Napisano od Guest, 05.10.2014 at 11:50

Napisano od The Tactician, 05.10.2014 at 11:32

Napisano od Guest, 05.10.2014 at 11:00

Napisano od The Tactician, 05.10.2014 at 02:10

Napisano od Guest, 04.10.2014 at 22:00

The last and arguably most important reason is simply "why". Why would I want to spend my time trying to teach some random stranger the basics of 3v3, who then might or might not do what I say? This is a game after all correct? I came to play the game not teach the game. Why should I go through all the trouble of teaching someone the game of which there is a possibility of that person not even taking his own effort to learn?

Once you teach this person 3v3 that's an extra competitive player to play with. You're adding to a section of the game that has few people, to the extent that everybody knows everybody's play style. You're gaining potential allies, friends, and clan mates ingame. By teaching even just one person you're ultimately helping your own gaming experience and influencing others to do the same. If each 3v3 player goes to a new player and tell them ''Hey, this is 3v3. Its competitive and fun. This is how you play it, but it needs practice and dedication. Are you up for that?'' I do agree with the possibility of the new player not making an effort or just simply not choosing to play 3v3. But hey, its their decision, at least you've showed him the way to a new gaming type and done what you had to do. Just make sure the player is dedicated to learning before you take him in.

I agree that the rewards of bringing up a new player into the 3v3 community is well worth the effort of training that player. But there aren't that many people willing to learn and train over again just to be proficient at the game. Literally every time a noob joins a 3v3 and picks the wrong country the immediate reaction is *shrugs* "omg kick noob and/or remake". I have never seen players staying back and trying to teach the noob. I'm sure it happens regardless but it doesn't happen often. It's a rare occasion from my observation.
And the reason why is because when joining a 3v3 for players already active in the 3v3 community their goal isn't to train newbies. Their goal, generally speaking, is to play the game and get better at it. Sure teaching a new player the ins and outs of a 3v3 can be rewarding in the future but given the amount of players willing to learn is very small, it's a barrier for people to take their own time to share their knowledge with a stranger.

I agree there is a lack of willing players that want to learn/teach. But oh well what can ya do, just do your best in encouraging people I guess.

I think we can help solve that problem though. At least problem of picking the wrong country and 1st turn wf'ing.
I'm thinking about creating a poster image of the most basic do's and don't in 3v3. I've sent links to newbies before on Desu's guide to 3v3 but the over reaction I get was tl/dr or "it's to complicated I don't understand".

Basically it'll be a picture highlighting the do's: country picks, strats for those country picks, most basic/simple expansions...etc. and don't: 1'st turn wf'ing, wrong country picks, hoarding inf inside walled cities, RA tank spam...etc.

What do you think?

I could certainly help and make the image. PM me.

Napisano od Skanderbeg, 13.11.2014 at 06:29

There would be more 3v3 players if there are training clans, but they fail for some reason. Band of Brothers, Dalmati Pups, Illirifaction, Victorious Scholars.
Its not that hard for premium 3v3 players to open atleast once a day low rank 3v3, teach them how to play eu+, they doesnt have to be in your clan.
But their ego wont let them, they hang out with their buddies rank 10 and 13 in 5 members-clan, waiting 2am to play cw and argue if there was wallglitch or not.

They fail for the lack of patience and dedication to newby players i guess. Not all newby will get to the level of a pro, not everyone has the same ease to learn or to improvise, not everyone will have pro skills, not cause they don't want to, just cause they don't have that quality or it's really hard for them. It's undestandable. But it seems like they all seem to discover some pretty much op player which is new and only needs a few indications and a little effort to make him the perfect eu player hehe there might be this super noob player which doesnt even wall but once he's been taught he becomes the most pro of all. It's all about giving the chance to a person and be patient cause you might not find the right person after 100 different tries. I'm trying to teach some people, help, assist, make games for them, etc. and it's not easy to see and be patient with some certain circunstances but I try my best obviously these people will need to fail 10k times before they get to our skill level but will eventually happen. Patience is the mother of all science!

Now its Hardly Ever 6+ its all ways 7+ now wtf then they ask you to cw but they wont 3v3 with you wtf ever BS

Napisano od Bindo, 30.12.2014 at 22:22

Now its Hardly Ever 6+ its all ways 7+ now wtf then they ask you to cw but they wont 3v3 with you wtf ever BS

Why don't you host a game ? The 5+ ,6+ fill as fast as the 7+ I have tried.

Thanks for speaking up for the little guys. As a rank 5 I can never join 3v3s because of rank limits, and I prefer not to join sp farming maps. As a result, I can neither play nor rank up. What is wrong with making 3v3s open to EVRY player, not just some rank and higher, because even if 6+ might seem pretty all inclusive to most people, there are still some low ranks that want to rank up by playing games that will actually help me in the long run.

Napisano od RaulPB, 13.11.2014 at 08:26

Napisano od Skanderbeg, 13.11.2014 at 06:29

There would be more 3v3 players if there are training clans, but they fail for some reason. Band of Brothers, Dalmati Pups, Illirifaction, Victorious Scholars.
Its not that hard for premium 3v3 players to open atleast once a day low rank 3v3, teach them how to play eu+, they doesnt have to be in your clan.
But their ego wont let them, they hang out with their buddies rank 10 and 13 in 5 members-clan, waiting 2am to play cw and argue if there was wallglitch or not.

They fail for the lack of patience and dedication to newby players i guess. Not all newby will get to the level of a pro, not everyone has the same ease to learn or to improvise, not everyone will have pro skills, not cause they don't want to, just cause they don't have that quality or it's really hard for them. It's undestandable. But it seems like they all seem to discover some pretty much op player which is new and only needs a few indications and a little effort to make him the perfect eu player hehe there might be this super noob player which doesnt even wall but once he's been taught he becomes the most pro of all. It's all about giving the chance to a person and be patient cause you might not find the right person after 100 different tries. I'm trying to teach some people, help, assist, make games for them, etc. and it's not easy to see and be patient with some certain circunstances but I try my best obviously these people will need to fail 10k times before they get to our skill level but will eventually happen. Patience is the mother of all science!

Shadow shadows was a good clan, is a graveyard right now, sun tsu put a lot of effor in us , if you see the former members you will see the amount of fails, but the former core group of ss are now really good players , ranks 6 who play 3 vs 3 and are in decent clans, the training clans fails because the leader has to be some kind of maniac that is teaching 30 guys, from wich most of them fails learning, to try to teach 30 more guys again, to fail again, eventually you find good players, but it needs a lot of time and a good leader, otherwise the clan dies, shadow shadows died when sun tsu left, and that probably happened to the rest of the training clans.

Napisano od IHavok, 31.12.2014 at 11:56

Napisano od RaulPB, 13.11.2014 at 08:26

Napisano od Skanderbeg, 13.11.2014 at 06:29

There would be more 3v3 players if there are training clans, but they fail for some reason. Band of Brothers, Dalmati Pups, Illirifaction, Victorious Scholars.
Its not that hard for premium 3v3 players to open atleast once a day low rank 3v3, teach them how to play eu+, they doesnt have to be in your clan.
But their ego wont let them, they hang out with their buddies rank 10 and 13 in 5 members-clan, waiting 2am to play cw and argue if there was wallglitch or not.

They fail for the lack of patience and dedication to newby players i guess. Not all newby will get to the level of a pro, not everyone has the same ease to learn or to improvise, not everyone will have pro skills, not cause they don't want to, just cause they don't have that quality or it's really hard for them. It's undestandable. But it seems like they all seem to discover some pretty much op player which is new and only needs a few indications and a little effort to make him the perfect eu player hehe there might be this super noob player which doesnt even wall but once he's been taught he becomes the most pro of all. It's all about giving the chance to a person and be patient cause you might not find the right person after 100 different tries. I'm trying to teach some people, help, assist, make games for them, etc. and it's not easy to see and be patient with some certain circunstances but I try my best obviously these people will need to fail 10k times before they get to our skill level but will eventually happen. Patience is the mother of all science!

Shadow shadows was a good clan, is a graveyard right now, sun tsu put a lot of effor in us , if you see the former members you will see the amount of fails, but the former core group of ss are now really good players , ranks 6 who play 3 vs 3 and are in decent clans, the training clans fails because the leader has to be some kind of maniac that is teaching 30 guys, from wich most of them fails learning, to try to teach 30 more guys again, to fail again, eventually you find good players, but it needs a lot of time and a good leader, otherwise the clan dies, shadow shadows died when sun tsu left, and that probably happened to the rest of the training clans.

Thats Why Mystics only acept like 10 low ranks each time, and our internal politics are expecially focus on train that low ranks.

Oh yeah lets all blame RP again? Always so easy.

The problem is not RP, the problem is not Rank limits ( it is just a part of the problem)
The big problem is that in most of those scenario maps low ranks cant play anything besides some noob country with 5 reinf and makes no reall difference. Like in WW2 germany/uk//china/japan/America etc. cant be picked if you are lower than rank 8/9 ( even rank 8's get kicked). I have observated alot of WW2 and even hosted some and immidiatly I saw people complaining when a lower ranks picks a (higher rank country). It is wrong, give people what they want, what strat they want, what country they want.

What happends in those scenario happens also in 3v3's when there is a low ranker playing in 3v3 and picks turkey/ukraine or uk/germany (as you guys call it '' best countries'' which is complete bs (but thats my opinion) ) They get forced to play spain/france ( the weakest countries in your eyes). By giving people only an option of 2 countries ( sometimes italy) how you expect them to be a good 3v3er if they never had any experience with 4/6 of the 3v3 basic countries?

Then now the rank limits.
Rank limits are set up for different reasons, some people like a challenge and want to play a hard game with their own skillbased players, so they make a 3v3 with a limit they think will be fun or a challenge.
Others do it because they dont want to play with low ranks because they ''suck and ruin the game'' as they speak.
Rank limits is here for a reason, people can play with what they want. This new generation can be hell alot of lucky since there are so many rank 5/6/7/8's who are premium and can make a game themself.

The problem is mostly the players it self, is it a player who thinks having much sp and being a highrank is all you can get in this game and decided to play SP farm-ish maps? Or is it a player who likes to play in teams? Or does he likes FFA? 5k? 3k? 10k? 25k? 50k? All different styles, all different players, all different games.
Maybe try to open up once and take a look at RP, I agree RP is kinda noob-ish due all the incomes (If I remember correct the lowest income in africa was around 78). But RP has alot of people who can make fast walls and biggwalls which protects bigparts of their countries as clovis stated in other threads before.

Dont push people, dont make clans where people only can join if they quit playing RP and only play 3v3's. And mostly let them go their own way, we all know competitive gameplay is growing in this game, due all of the new clans and all the cw's.

Fyi, rank 6's like tirpitz said have enough sp for the requiered upgrades for 3v3, it depends on the strats. GW is perfectly capable at rank 6, imp too, nc too, ra too, and even PD is.

Napisano od Waffel, 20.01.2015 at 03:15

Oh yeah lets all blame RP again? Always so easy.

The problem is not RP, the problem is not Rank limits ( it is just a part of the problem)
The big problem is that in most of those scenario maps low ranks cant play anything besides some noob country with 5 reinf and makes no reall difference. Like in WW2 germany/uk//china/japan/America etc. cant be picked if you are lower than rank 8/9 ( even rank 8's get kicked). I have observated alot of WW2 and even hosted some and immidiatly I saw people complaining when a lower ranks picks a (higher rank country). It is wrong, give people what they want, what strat they want, what country they want.

What happends in those scenario happens also in 3v3's when there is a low ranker playing in 3v3 and picks turkey/ukraine or uk/germany (as you guys call it '' best countries'' which is complete bs (but thats my opinion) ) They get forced to play spain/france ( the weakest countries in your eyes). By giving people only an option of 2 countries ( sometimes italy) how you expect them to be a good 3v3er if they never had any experience with 4/6 of the 3v3 basic countries?

Then now the rank limits.
Rank limits are set up for different reasons, some people like a challenge and want to play a hard game with their own skillbased players, so they make a 3v3 with a limit they think will be fun or a challenge.
Others do it because they dont want to play with low ranks because they ''suck and ruin the game'' as they speak.
Rank limits is here for a reason, people can play with what they want. This new generation can be hell alot of lucky since there are so many rank 5/6/7/8's who are premium and can make a game themself.

The problem is mostly the players it self, is it a player who thinks having much sp and being a highrank is all you can get in this game and decided to play SP farm-ish maps? Or is it a player who likes to play in teams? Or does he likes FFA? 5k? 3k? 10k? 25k? 50k? All different styles, all different players, all different games.
Maybe try to open up once and take a look at RP, I agree RP is kinda noob-ish due all the incomes (If I remember correct the lowest income in africa was around 78). But RP has alot of people who can make fast walls and biggwalls which protects bigparts of their countries as clovis stated in other threads before.

Dont push people, dont make clans where people only can join if they quit playing RP and only play 3v3's. And mostly let them go their own way, we all know competitive gameplay is growing in this game, due all of the new clans and all the cw's.

Fyi, rank 6's like tirpitz said have enough sp for the requiered upgrades for 3v3, it depends on the strats. GW is perfectly capable at rank 6, imp too, nc too, ra too, and even PD is.

when i was rank 6 i had 80k sp and that was enough for the most important upgreades...look it up

the entire point was that its not RP's fault, its the rank limits, also, this thread is like 10 months old

Personally I don't usually join 3vs3. I like them in theory, and on occasion when I play with members from my cln I have fun, but I never play them in the lobby with the general public. These are the reasons why I don't play 3vs3 keep in mind I'm a rank 9, and know how the game woks in general so imagine how a new player might feel.
1. I usually play scenarios, and I'm not used to the default units anymore.
2. Since I play scenarios, the countries are already pre-made so I never practice expansion.
3. Even in the days of Afterwind when the lobby was full of world maps I always picked in the Americas or Asia, while 3vs3 are almost always in Europe.
4. Due to "reason 3" I was never as good expanding in Europe as in the Americas.
5. In general players in AtWar take losing and winning way too seriously. If I win a game it's because of "lag" or because I got lucky. If I lose it's because I'm a noob.
6. If I mess up an expansion in a 3vs3 my teammates will rage, insult me, and possibly leave. The other team will also insult me.
7. If I say I'm going to leave after a teammate leaves first turn, then someone from the other team will insult me.
8. If I don't mess up the expansion too bad, but still lose then my team mates will still probably insult me, and the opposing team will still probably insult me.
9. If I have very good team mates and end up winning, then I still get insulted by the other team for only winning because of my team mates.
10. Ultimately I'm playing the game for fun, and if I'm not having fun in 3vs3 then why should I be forced to play it until I get good at it?

Napisano od NoOne, 20.01.2015 at 14:12

Personally I don't usually join 3vs3. I like them in theory, and on occasion when I play with members from my cln I have fun, but I never play them in the lobby with the general public. These are the reasons why I don't play 3vs3 keep in mind I'm a rank 9, and know how the game woks in general so imagine how a new player might feel.
1. I usually play scenarios, and I'm not used to the default units anymore.
2. Since I play scenarios, the countries are already pre-made so I never practice expansion.
3. Even in the days of Afterwind when the lobby was full of world maps I always picked in the Americas or Asia, while 3vs3 are almost always in Europe.
4. Due to "reason 3" I was never as good expanding in Europe as in the Americas.
5. In general players in AtWar take losing and winning way too seriously. If I win a game it's because of "lag" or because I got lucky. If I lose it's because I'm a noob.
6. If I mess up an expansion in a 3vs3 my teammates will rage, insult me, and possibly leave. The other team will also insult me.
7. If I say I'm going to leave after a teammate leaves first turn, then someone from the other team will insult me.
8. If I don't mess up the expansion too bad, but still lose then my team mates will still probably insult me, and the opposing team will still probably insult me.
9. If I have very good team mates and end up winning, then I still get insulted by the other team for only winning because of my team mates.
10. Ultimately I'm playing the game for fun, and if I'm not having fun in 3vs3 then why should I be forced to play it until I get good at it?

omg, is true, every single point,specially point 5,i know rp players that are as good (only a few really ) as any 3 vs 3 players, and when they win 3 vs 3 the 'competitive' players start claiming stupid reasons about why they lost, just because the other player plays rp, also the competitive players say every single little mistake commited by the rp player, even if they are commited worse fails, the other points aplies to people that is learning the 3 vs 3 scenario, they want to get fun, but they only encounter an hostile response from the more experienced players,calling noobs to rank 7 players that has never played 3 vs 3 because they didn't do the 'correct' expansion even if this is fault of the own community, how do you expect players to play 3 vs 3 if they can't enter until rank 7?, 3 vs 3 is like a job to some people, i ve also seen host kicking 'troll' players ( i was kicked for picking bulgaria in a 3v3) for picking a 'bad country',what is the point of the picks if you, as low rank are forced to pick one of the normal picks? i can't experiment, ive been starting to think that 3 vs 3 is like a mechanical scenario ( fun, but still mechanical) in wich you have to do the same thing every game.

Napisano od Tirpitz406, 20.01.2015 at 13:37

Napisano od Waffel, 20.01.2015 at 03:15

Fyi, rank 6's like tirpitz said have enough sp for the requiered upgrades for 3v3, it depends on the strats. GW is perfectly capable at rank 6, imp too, nc too, ra too, and even PD is.

when i was rank 6 i had 80k sp and that was enough for the most important upgreades...look it up

the entire point was that its not RP's fault, its the rank limits, also, this thread is like 10 months old

Idk if you misinterpreted but I actually agreed with you about r6's having enough SP like most of the people did disagree on...

And I didnt notice this thread was that old.

Napisano od Skanderbeg, 13.11.2014 at 06:29

Its not that hard for premium 3v3 players to open atleast once a day low rank 3v3, teach them how to play eu+

Perhaps we should have a literal day of the week for helping out new people to 3v3? I propose Low-rank Wednesdays. Or 3v3 Thursdays. Really the name doesn't matter but a strong cultural tradition would help and it'd only be one day out of the week people would have to be philanthropic.

Napisano od ArminyMouse, 23.01.2015 at 18:51

Napisano od Waffel, 21.01.2015 at 02:22

Idk if you misinterpreted but I actually agreed with you about r6's having enough SP like most of the people did disagree on...

And I didnt notice this thread was that old.

Hah,problem is that rank6 dont know what upgrades are important,they are buying mos and stealth upgrades,lift the fog and other noob upgrades..........

Tirp,rank limit was placed to 7-15(8-15 now...)bcs rp started to exist.
With rp where all are in peace like noobs low rank players start playing and level-up rly fast,i know ranks9-10 that are rp fags.......
When we see rp map,thats good map,a lot of cities and countries,but rp has that noobic rules........
And then when players become r4-5 they dont searching clans,they are playing rp,and then joining rp fag clans....
All this text is about that RP is partially guilty bcs of placing rank limits..............
And only way to destroying rank limits is deleting all RPs.But now,RP cant be stopped,bcs of tons and tons of rp scenarios and maps..................

only stupid rank 6's dont know what upgreades to buy, when i was rank 4 i joined a clan and i read this guide: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=10024

also, it seems like you didnt read carefully, my point was that when people dont have anything to play but RP and scenarios, they are going to play RP's and scenarios

Napisano od Socialist Chick, 24.01.2015 at 04:03

Napisano od Skanderbeg, 13.11.2014 at 06:29

Its not that hard for premium 3v3 players to open atleast once a day low rank 3v3, teach them how to play eu+

Perhaps we should have a literal day of the week for helping out new people to 3v3? I propose Low-rank Wednesdays. Or 3v3 Thursdays. Really the name doesn't matter but a strong cultural tradition would help and it'd only be one day out of the week people would have to be philanthropic.

SUPPORT !!! best idea I've heard in a while

Lies!

Napisano od Tirpitz406, 24.01.2015 at 04:33

Napisano od ArminyMouse, 23.01.2015 at 18:51

Napisano od Waffel, 21.01.2015 at 02:22

Idk if you misinterpreted but I actually agreed with you about r6's having enough SP like most of the people did disagree on...

And I didnt notice this thread was that old.

Hah,problem is that rank6 dont know what upgrades are important,they are buying mos and stealth upgrades,lift the fog and other noob upgrades..........

Tirp,rank limit was placed to 7-15(8-15 now...)bcs rp started to exist.
With rp where all are in peace like noobs low rank players start playing and level-up rly fast,i know ranks9-10 that are rp fags.......
When we see rp map,thats good map,a lot of cities and countries,but rp has that noobic rules........
And then when players become r4-5 they dont searching clans,they are playing rp,and then joining rp fag clans....
All this text is about that RP is partially guilty bcs of placing rank limits..............
And only way to destroying rank limits is deleting all RPs.But now,RP cant be stopped,bcs of tons and tons of rp scenarios and maps..................

only stupid rank 6's dont know what upgreades to buy, when i was rank 4 i joined a clan and i read this guide: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=10024

also, it seems like you didnt read carefully, my point was that when people dont have anything to play but RP and scenarios, they are going to play RP's and scenarios

Thing is a lot of players are so used to playing 50k that they think expansions like +1 naval stealth capacity or anti-aircraft are wise investments. It becomes really dismaying when you find out that all your investments leave you ill-equipped to play competitively and leave you out of funds quickly. When I first encountered this problem on an account I've since deleted, I just made a new account rather than have to pay for a reset. I personally would like there to be an ability for users to have one free reset but then there's a chance they'll use it prematurely.

Tirpitz some what right on this one, I know this is an older post but I do have some knowledge in this field. Roleplay as you know doesn't carry alot of skill, spamming bombers, tanks, bunkers etc.. along with your 15 allies to kill one "rogue". I know how this all works because I use to be addicted to roleplay. I even made new accounts every two days in order to host roleplays. Face it it's fun but long and not really skill. Now as you all know or don't know I play 3v3's and basically that's it because I want to advance in this community. You can't blame roleplay for all the problems in atWar. I didn't learn all that much from roleplay other than the "3 unit wall" or 'turnblocking" but i enjoyed myself therefore I played. One day I decided to "go pro" alot with Johser V or now know as Optic(CDN) decided to quit the roleplaying and do us some good and only play 1v1's and 3v3's, I stuck to my word and I lost him for a bit, but he finally decided to quit it. I'm not saying I'm the top player but I know I'm very advanced in this game because I pushed myself I learned this stuff for myself and no one can take that from me. Blaming roleplay for these problems is like saying our support team is active. I don't know alot of r7's and r8's because I only play with higher ranks, so I can eventually achieve my goal which is reach rank 15, which is probably impossible but I will try. Personally I HATE roleplay with a passion now because I wasted so much time, like playing 10h games and loosing at the end because the world gangbanged me. I learnt nothing from it and when I quit those, 3v3's I started playing were horrible and I understand why. Lower ranks won't be good unless they fail but try and rise. That's what I did and hey I turned out decent. yeah we all lose our fair share of games and like me I'm a sore loser because I hate losing unless it's against Caulerpa (BEST experience in my life). But when I read this on blaming roleplay for the "noobness" in the lower ranks, I had to say something. I do have a rank limit of 7 in my games because I want a challenge, which makes me a better player, and I do get that it sucks when someone pick Finland in a 3v3, but we've all done it and you can't just go blaming "ROLEPLAY" for these problems. Go in beginners lobby and look at their 3v3's it's the same it sucks, even if they've never playerd roleplay. It's all because they weren't taught, which is completely normal. I always wanted main to open at r6 because I hate noobs. We all do but I realize I've been there and I'm only r7 therefore I'm not that far from them, so please stop blaming roleplay and just tell the noobs how to play!

Crypt out!

Napisano od CrypticCDN, 22.02.2015 at 23:53

Tirpitz some what right on this one, I know this is an older post but I do have some knowledge in this field. Roleplay as you know doesn't carry alot of skill, spamming bombers, tanks, bunkers etc.. along with your 15 allies to kill one "rogue". I know how this all works because I use to be addicted to roleplay. I even made new accounts every two days in order to host roleplays. Face it it's fun but long and not really skill. Now as you all know or don't know I play 3v3's and basically that's it because I want to advance in this community. You can't blame roleplay for all the problems in atWar. I didn't learn all that much from roleplay other than the "3 unit wall" or 'turnblocking" but i enjoyed myself therefore I played. One day I decided to "go pro" alot with Johser V or now know as Optic(CDN) decided to quit the roleplaying and do us some good and only play 1v1's and 3v3's, I stuck to my word and I lost him for a bit, but he finally decided to quit it. I'm not saying I'm the top player but I know I'm very advanced in this game because I pushed myself I learned this stuff for myself and no one can take that from me. Blaming roleplay for these problems is like saying our support team is active. I don't know alot of r7's and r8's because I only play with higher ranks, so I can eventually achieve my goal which is reach rank 15, which is probably impossible but I will try. Personally I HATE roleplay with a passion now because I wasted so much time, like playing 10h games and loosing at the end because the world gangbanged me. I learnt nothing from it and when I quit those, 3v3's I started playing were horrible and I understand why. Lower ranks won't be good unless they fail but try and rise. That's what I did and hey I turned out decent. yeah we all lose our fair share of games and like me I'm a sore loser because I hate losing unless it's against Caulerpa (BEST experience in my life). But when I read this on blaming roleplay for the "noobness" in the lower ranks, I had to say something. I do have a rank limit of 7 in my games because I want a challenge, which makes me a better player, and I do get that it sucks when someone pick Finland in a 3v3, but we've all done it and you can't just go blaming "ROLEPLAY" for these problems. Go in beginners lobby and look at their 3v3's it's the same it sucks, even if they've never playerd roleplay. It's all because they weren't taught, which is completely normal. I always wanted main to open at r6 because I hate noobs. We all do but I realize I've been there and I'm only r7 therefore I'm not that far from them, so please stop blaming roleplay and just tell the noobs how to play!

Crypt out!

Same story here xD.

Napisano od IHavok, 31.12.2014 at 11:56

Shadow shadows was a good clan, is a graveyard right now, sun tsu put a lot of effor in us , if you see the former members you will see the amount of fails, but the former core group of ss are now really good players , ranks 6 who play 3 vs 3 and are in decent clans, the training clans fails because the leader has to be some kind of maniac that is teaching 30 guys, from wich most of them fails learning, to try to teach 30 more guys again, to fail again, eventually you find good players, but it needs a lot of time and a good leader, otherwise the clan dies, shadow shadows died when sun tsu left, and that probably happened to the rest of the training clans.

Agree..

I hate rp but i have to join it so i can become rank 6 so i can join (6-15) games.

this is such bs.

Napisano od boywind2, 26.05.2015 at 21:23

I hate rp but i have to join it so i can become rank 6 so i can join (6-15) games.

this is such bs.

If you see a game hosted above your rank ask the player to lower rank limit they usually will if it's not filling fast enough

Napisano od Exo-K, 27.05.2015 at 02:38

Napisano od boywind2, 26.05.2015 at 21:23

I hate rp but i have to join it so i can become rank 6 so i can join (6-15) games.

this is such bs.

If you see a game hosted above your rank ask the player to lower rank limit they usually will if it's not filling fast enough

Anyone here interested in teaching me to play 3v3,1v1,and 2v2 ?
I'm interested,I read some stuff ,I'm not total newbie,I did not played this for like 8-9 months,but even before that I was not so good

Napisano od Black Swans, 10.07.2015 at 12:16

Anyone here interested in teaching me to play 3v3,1v1,and 2v2 ?
I'm interested,I read some stuff ,I'm not total newbie,I did not played this for like 8-9 months,but even before that I was not so good

Sure I can teach you the basics and such

That's progression of the game that sim's war.