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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

14.09.2016 - 13:02
Nice, Rome is under threat now. My Legions could have been useful in this situation but you lot were too busy disbanding them. I buy nothing. Update the player list since Legio IX died.
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14.09.2016 - 13:22
10 Talents to rome
3 for equite

Tunder should pass military reforms this turn. I can't recommend declaring war on those two other factions

Napisano od Zephyrusu, 14.09.2016 at 13:02

Nice, Rome is under threat now. My Legions could have been useful in this situation but you lot were too busy disbanding them. I buy nothing. Update the player list since Legio IX died.


When will you stop being butthurt
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14.09.2016 - 13:57
3 on equite
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14.09.2016 - 14:09
Napisano od Aetius, 14.09.2016 at 13:22

Tunder should pass military reforms this turn. I can't recommend declaring war on those two other factions


Vote me as Dictator and I will pass the law + I will generously grant you Sicily
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14.09.2016 - 14:11
1000th post!!


I think this makes this AW's biggest thread?

Either way, congrats guys, and congrats Aetius!! Let's keep this game, and Rome alive

Senatus Populusque Romanus!
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14.09.2016 - 14:13
I am going to buy a Tribune
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14.09.2016 - 14:13
Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 14:13

I am going to buy a Tribune

You can do that?
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14.09.2016 - 14:30
Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 14:09

Napisano od Aetius, 14.09.2016 at 13:22

Tunder should pass military reforms this turn. I can't recommend declaring war on those two other factions


Vote me as Dictator and I will pass the law + I will generously grant you Sicily

dictator would be useful atm
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14.09.2016 - 14:34
Roll for equite

Get us a dictator, and replace one of the commanders with me ( preferrably the Carthage one ), Galerius Nipius. I have a reputation of never losing battles ( except 1 naval battle )

Also watch out, someone might win the game all by himself soon.
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14.09.2016 - 14:37
 Witch-Doctor (Moderator)
2 to rome
1 equite roll
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14.09.2016 - 15:36
3 on equite and with the lack of funds to prosecute multiple wars, I feel it is best that Rome focuses on dealing with our enemies than with redistributing the land. My committee vetoes the proposed land bill.
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14.09.2016 - 15:54
Napisano od Pheonixking929, 14.09.2016 at 15:36

3 on equite and with the lack of funds to prosecute multiple wars, I feel it is best that Rome focuses on dealing with our enemies than with redistributing the land. My committee vetoes the proposed land bill.

Have you seen the unrest level?? Lol fine.

I propose a new Tier 2 land bill with Pyrrhus as my co-sponsor. If I can't have same person as cosponsor I'll have aurum as my cosponsor.

Aetius and I already donated enough money to cover the cost of landbill. You guys should be donating too instead of vetoing.

Tier 2 bill is just a 5 Talent penalty. Is that okay?

Edit: As for Dictator, I believe it should go to either Pyrrhus or Death since they're our best military commanders and give us greatest chance of victory. If there are 4 wars active by next turn, Rome falls and it's gg
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14.09.2016 - 16:05
Napisano od Darth., 14.09.2016 at 14:11

1000th post!!


I think this makes this AW's biggest thread?

Either way, congrats guys, and congrats Aetius!! Let's keep this game, and Rome alive

Senatus Populusque Romanus!


Aetius best forum RP host
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14.09.2016 - 16:08
Napisano od Need Mental Help, 14.09.2016 at 16:05

Aetius best forum RP host

Don't forget credit where credit is due either; Tunder introduced it first, and even got a new subforum added
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14.09.2016 - 16:12
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Edit: As for Dictator, I believe it should go to either Pyrrhus or Death since they're our best military commanders and give us greatest chance of victory. If there are 4 wars active by next turn, Rome falls and it's gg


I do not think anyone should be elected as Dictator, not to mention if I was elected Dictator, I would win the game due to having enough influence.
However, this can of course be prevented if a certain powerhungry person who likes to spread rumours and frame others were to use the law he has available to prevent anyone from winning by influence alone, but this person of course tries to use it as a bargaining chip to become Dictator, yet another forceful move by him along with corruption, he is an enemy of the people of Rome until he decides to do something that isn't solely for his own gain, or using forceful methods to achieve them.
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14.09.2016 - 16:17
Napisano od Pyrrhus, 14.09.2016 at 16:12


I actually support the military reforms law since winning by 35 influence just asks for assassinations and does not focus on the politics as much as the intrigue which requires far less skills.

But I'm surprised. With the situation as bad as it is, you honestly think we don't need a dictator?
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14.09.2016 - 16:52
Rome needs a neutral dictator.
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14.09.2016 - 17:02
Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 16:52

Rome needs a neutral dictator.

Oh, you would be a good candidate! How coincidental....
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14.09.2016 - 17:09
Napisano od Google, 14.09.2016 at 17:02

Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 16:52

Rome needs a neutral dictator.

Oh, you would be a good candidate! How coincidental....


My predictions have always come true
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14.09.2016 - 17:11
Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 17:09

My predictions have always come true

Ahaha, alright mate. Enjoy being a prophet
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14.09.2016 - 17:22
Napisano od Google, 14.09.2016 at 17:11

Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 17:09

My predictions have always come true

Ahaha, alright mate. Enjoy being a prophet


Its basic human behavior most of it its predictable
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14.09.2016 - 17:30
 JF.
Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 17:22

Napisano od Google, 14.09.2016 at 17:11

Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 17:09

My predictions have always come true

Ahaha, alright mate. Enjoy being a prophet


Its basic human behavior most of it its predictable


It is predictable for you because, you set it in motion.
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14.09.2016 - 18:22
Napisano od JF., 14.09.2016 at 17:30

Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 17:22

Napisano od Google, 14.09.2016 at 17:11

Napisano od Tundy, 14.09.2016 at 17:09

My predictions have always come true

Ahaha, alright mate. Enjoy being a prophet


Its basic human behavior most of it its predictable


It is predictable for you because, you set it in motion.


because populares would never, ever play dirty.
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14.09.2016 - 18:37
I am loved by the troops, so in an act of good will i will propose the Military Reforms and A new land reform (tier 3) to give free land to Italian Veterans.
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14.09.2016 - 19:13
6 on equite and again, anyone who wants to make a faction, just tell me.
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14.09.2016 - 20:23
I already proposed a new Tier 2 land bill above after first one was vetoed @Tunder
Rome can't afford 10 Talents a year penalty but 5 Talents is possible. You're just putting Tier 3 because it has maximum popularity gain.
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14.09.2016 - 20:24
3 talents on Equite
6 to Rome
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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14.09.2016 - 20:49
Host games on rome
3 on equite and I propose the calpurnian law
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14.09.2016 - 21:01
Napisano od Darth., 14.09.2016 at 20:23

I already proposed a new Tier 2 land bill above after first one was vetoed @Tunder
Rome can't afford 10 Talents a year penalty but 5 Talents is possible. You're just putting Tier 3 because it has maximum popularity gain.


I wonder what my cognomen will become after I pass the Military and Land Reforms to benefit Veterans of Italia. You are free to vote me down if you believe my land reforms are too generous, but bear in mind that you will get a popularity penalty.
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15.09.2016 - 01:17
==Turn 14: Phase 2 has begun==
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