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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

23.08.2016 - 14:35
Consul Vote
1)Caspiel Rex (Darth.) & Herius Sertorius (Aetius)

Censor Vote
2)Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406)

Pontifex Maximus Vote
1)Publius Marius (Pyrrhus )

Praetor Vote
2)Opiter Caelius (Safari)



"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Wars
The Consuls have chosen not to propose the Illyrian war to the Senate this year.

Commands
Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) will command the First Punic War as Field Consul



Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
1)9 fleets 1 legion

Force deployments
1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War


Habour Fees(+3 talents per turn) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls)

Caspiel Rex (Darth.) Backed by both Consuls +8 votes


Tax Farmer 1 (+2 talents per turn) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls)

Gaius Julius (GodofWar ) Backed by both Consuls +8 votes
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23.08.2016 - 14:58
 JF.
Napisano od Aetius, 23.08.2016 at 14:16

"I am highly disappointed in the cowardice of the senate. But if this pacifist motion is to come to pass there is no reason to levy forces."

Switch my vote to nay on recruiting new units, imo we area already off to a bad start

also: only waiting for 4 more ppl to vote


why are we of to a bad start?

poor leadership again?
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23.08.2016 - 15:01
Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 14:58

Napisano od Aetius, 23.08.2016 at 14:16






Maybe we should have taken out Illyria really quickly or something like that, would like to see Carthage go down though.
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23.08.2016 - 15:47
Consul: 1
Censor: 1
Pointifex Maximums: 1
Paetor: 1
Levying: 1
Deployment: 1
Harbour Fees: Caspiel Rex
Tax Farmer: Gaius Julius
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23.08.2016 - 15:56
Consul Vote
1)Caspiel Rex (Darth.) & Herius Sertorius (Aetius)

Censor Vote
2)Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406)

Pontifex Maximus Vote
1)Publius Marius (Pyrrhus )

Praetor Vote
1)Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816)



Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
1) 9 fleets 1 legion

Force deployments
2) Punic War

Habour Fees(+3 talents per turn)
Herius Sertorius (Aetius)

Tax Farmer 1 (+2 talents per turn)
Aurelius Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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23.08.2016 - 16:09
Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 14:58



poor leadership again?


Poor options, no consideration for bonuses, voting within their faction.

Same old, same old.... its early republic, Rome should come first, not their little group.

they should have either spammed naval and appointed "death1812" with his bonus... or as Army said, declared on Illyria....
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23.08.2016 - 16:16
 JF.
Napisano od Phoenix, 23.08.2016 at 16:09

Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 14:58



poor leadership again?


Poor options, no consideration for bonuses, voting within their faction.

Same old, same old.... its early republic, Rome should come first, not their little group.

they should have either spammed naval and appointed "death1812" with his bonus... or as Army said, declared on Illyria....


Yeah you're right.

Trip has 3 military skill and death has 5 plus the half bonus.
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23.08.2016 - 16:21
Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 16:16

Napisano od Phoenix, 23.08.2016 at 16:09

Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 14:58



poor leadership again?


Poor options, no consideration for bonuses, voting within their faction.

Same old, same old.... its early republic, Rome should come first, not their little group.

they should have either spammed naval and appointed "death1812" with his bonus... or as Army said, declared on Illyria....


Yeah you're right.

Trip has 3 military skill and death has 5 plus the half bonus.

And Illyria gives 1+ unrest
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23.08.2016 - 16:29
Napisano od Aetius, 23.08.2016 at 14:16

"I am highly disappointed in the cowardice of the senate. But if this pacifist motion is to come to pass there is no reason to levy forces."

Switch my vote to nay on recruiting new units, imo we area already off to a bad start

also: only waiting for 4 more ppl to vote


Can I ask how people were able to afford 3 coin on equites t1 when income is 2?
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23.08.2016 - 16:29
Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 16:22

GOW or Tripitz got anything to say?

I suggest you change them votes immediately.

I doubt you will be voted into office again like this.

first off it had to be a consul...this is what aetius sent me
7)If so, who will command the Illyrian war?Either your or Field Consul (this person may also promise to resign and appoint someone else)
8)Who will command the First Punic War? Field Consul has first dibs if he wants it, otherwise Rome Consul (this person may also promise to resign and appoint someone else)
please dont talk out of your ass ty
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23.08.2016 - 16:32
Napisano od Phoenix, 23.08.2016 at 16:29



Can I ask how people were able to afford 3 coin on equites t1 when income is 2?


People have 4 wealth at start.

Anyway, I am less bothered about the command choices, but the senates vote to not engage. Every turn missed against a war is a massive waste of potential. 10 ships + tirpitz 3 command and just fucking go for it. When you have an advantage, attack, it doesn't have to be a huge advantage.

Anyway will update game now, tirpitz isn't here but his vote will no longer change any result.
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23.08.2016 - 16:35
 JF.
Napisano od 1GodofWar1, 23.08.2016 at 16:29

Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 16:22

GOW or Tripitz got anything to say?

I suggest you change them votes immediately.

I doubt you will be voted into office again like this.

first off it had to be a consul...this is what aetius sent me
7)If so, who will command the Illyrian war?Either your or Field Consul (this person may also promise to resign and appoint someone else)
8)Who will command the First Punic War? Field Consul has first dibs if he wants it, otherwise Rome Consul (this person may also promise to resign and appoint someone else)
please dont talk out of your ass ty


Appoint someone else....
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23.08.2016 - 16:37
Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 16:35

Napisano od 1GodofWar1, 23.08.2016 at 16:29

Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 16:22

GOW or Tripitz got anything to say?

I suggest you change them votes immediately.

I doubt you will be voted into office again like this.

first off it had to be a consul...this is what aetius sent me
7)If so, who will command the Illyrian war?Either your or Field Consul (this person may also promise to resign and appoint someone else)
8)Who will command the First Punic War? Field Consul has first dibs if he wants it, otherwise Rome Consul (this person may also promise to resign and appoint someone else)
please dont talk out of your ass ty


Appoint someone else....

does it look like im commander?
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23.08.2016 - 16:38
Napisano od Phoenix, 23.08.2016 at 16:09

Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 14:58



poor leadership again?


Poor options, no consideration for bonuses, voting within their faction.

Same old, same old.... its early republic, Rome should come first, not their little group.

they should have either spammed naval and appointed "death1812" with his bonus... or as Army said, declared on Illyria....

any available point to flame you jump at our throat thanks for that
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23.08.2016 - 16:39
 JF.
Napisano od 1GodofWar1, 23.08.2016 at 16:38

Napisano od Phoenix, 23.08.2016 at 16:09

Napisano od JF., 23.08.2016 at 14:58



poor leadership again?


Poor options, no consideration for bonuses, voting within their faction.

Same old, same old.... its early republic, Rome should come first, not their little group.

they should have either spammed naval and appointed "death1812" with his bonus... or as Army said, declared on Illyria....

any available point to flame you jump at our throat thanks for that


It's what trip should do and u are with him.
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23.08.2016 - 16:54
==Turn 2: Phase 1 has begun==
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23.08.2016 - 17:01
3 talents for equite
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23.08.2016 - 17:02
We should fuck up illyrian pirates now
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23.08.2016 - 17:03
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6 on equite
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23.08.2016 - 17:04
3 for equite
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23.08.2016 - 17:05
I would like to roll 3 talents for an equite.
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23.08.2016 - 17:11
My fellow senators,
it has come to my notice as censor that senator JF has decided to become fat and wealthy in this time of need where pirates are attacking our dear fellow romans.
(he doubled his concession and has 14 income and currently 17 equites!!)

before prosecution i will give JF one chance to prove his loyalty to rome and donate all his equites to rome.
if he decides not to, it will prove my point above and i will further continue with his prosecution.
JF if you do not do this my prosecution stands this turn.
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23.08.2016 - 17:12
6 talents on Equite
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23.08.2016 - 17:16
3 talents for equite
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23.08.2016 - 17:21
Napisano od Tundy, 23.08.2016 at 17:16

Napisano od 1GodofWar1, 23.08.2016 at 17:11

My fellow senators,
it has come to my notice as censor that senator JF has decided to become fat and wealthy in this time of need where pirates are attacking our dear fellow romans.
(he doubled his concession and has 14 income and currently 17 equites!!)


Funny, how you accuse JF of corruption when you are pocketing yourself the tax revenues of Rome.


funny how you are defending him he is clearly exploiting rome.
are you in on this exploit?
maybe you are getting a cut to defend him?
are you trying to compare +10 equites to +2? most senators have a minor concession when rome will be in need i will contribute, same as last game.


Tiberius Numertorius (JF.)
Personal Income: [14] Wealth: [17] Military Skill [3] Oratory [3] Popularity: [-1] Influence: [2]
Equites: [1]
Faction: [Ripam Alexandriae]
Sicilian Grain +10 talents, Currently exploiting people with high priced grain due to piracy -1 popularity
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23.08.2016 - 17:23
Roll equite with 6 talents
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23.08.2016 - 17:28
Any with concessions should donate to Rome, or face prosecution imo. Censor Gaius Julius is looking out for the best interests of the state. Our problems are mounting rapidly once more and they must be addressed swiftly.

I roll for equite. (1 on equite)
1 talent to rome
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23.08.2016 - 17:32
3 on an equite
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23.08.2016 - 17:35
I donate 1 to rome and i advise every concession holder to contribute as well
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23.08.2016 - 17:46
Can I still sign up for this game?

If you can, call me Biggus Dickus and set my stats to 2 military, 4 oratory and 2 influence. TY
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