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Objavljeno od , 07.04.2015 - 15:56
Once a player reaches rank 7, his Elo should be reset to 1000 and from that point on he should only be able to duel players of rank 7 and higher. I know this disagrees with most of what I have said regarding this topic in the past, but I think that I was a bit ignorant when it came to this subject. Seemingly upgrades are such a huge factor when it comes to competitive gameplay, that high-ranks dueling low-ranks is just unfair. Another thing is that the implementation of seasonal Elo requires a quick fix.

The Elo one reached when playing in the low rank division could be saved and shown as some type of achievement in the player profile, and the ladder rankings of the 2-6 division would have to be separate of the 7-15 division.

I changed my mind because the duel-activity of atWar players wasn't high enough to prevent high-ranks who mainly play low-ranks from being rated in the top 50. High activity and consequently higher Elo-ratings would prevent this as well, but implementing rank restrictions seems like the right way to go since it's a quicker fix.

Discuss and upvote.
08.04.2015 - 05:39
It´s funny how sarcastics are you guys, and sorry but this is not going in circle this is the same topic as reciently and the same issue and the same hipocrisy.

Finally these last topics are about to fix the elo farming, duel system, top elo players, etc etc

People talking about they want to fix this issue and/or system about elo and duels, restrictions, divisions, possible farm, alts accounts in the top list etc etc etc when the own posters are the first one who are dueling low ranks.

Can somebody explain it to me please?

Already i don´t know if i´m getting crazy or getting fun about so much hipocrisy.

If you would really want to fix it, you could start for not dueling low ranks and give example.

Again zero common sense in your words.

I repeat, the ideas ar not bad, but is stupid propose something when i´m the first one who is not giving example with my acts.

I think it´s more than obvious what i try to explain, but now again both will make excuses saying that:

- or don´t understand my words cause my english.
- or it´s me who don´t understand the elo system

How can u ask for something that u are the first one who is not giving example?

How can i ask for improve the elo farming and try to get a real elo top list if i´m the first one who make alts accounts for getting elo peaks or i´m dueling low ranks with my main too?.

Incredible again
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08.04.2015 - 05:49
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Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 05:39

Typical hormirant in bad English with even worse formatting.

Hormi, you write the exact same paragraph in every thread. Can we please for once just discuss the topic, we all know by now that I am a farmer in your opinion. It's ok. Discuss the topic at hand.
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08.04.2015 - 05:55
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 05:39

Incredible again

What is incredible is that you wrote 5000 words of worthless crap so far and you keep repeating it over and over like you have brain damage while saying nothing that contributes to the issue.

Literally ...you wrote 15 fucking pages so far of shit that you could say in 2 sentences.
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08.04.2015 - 06:03
Napisano od Goblin, 08.04.2015 at 05:55

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 05:39

Incredible again

What is incredible is that you wrote 5000 words of worthless crap so far and you keep repeating it over and over like you have brain damage while saying nothing that contributes to the issue.

Literally ...you wrote 15 fucking pages so far of shit that you could say in 2 sentences.



I have told it already in a short sentence some times but u still don´t understand i think.

I repeat the sentence one more time.

If a player "really" wants to improve the actuall system and make it fairly, should be the first one giving example and stop dueling low ranks or making alt acounts for farming.

That´s all.

Do you agree or not?
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08.04.2015 - 06:05
Napisano od Guest, 08.04.2015 at 05:49

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 05:39

Typical hormirant in bad English with even worse formatting.

Hormi, you write the exact same paragraph in every thread. Can we please for once just discuss the topic, we all know by now that I am a farmer in your opinion. It's ok. Discuss the topic at hand.



Dude i´m not native english speaker this is my english level.

Do i make fun of you if u try to speak in spanish or another language that u don´t know very well?
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08.04.2015 - 06:06
Chocobanalol
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Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:03

If a player "really" wants to improve the actuall system and make it fairly, should be the first one giving example and stop dueling low ranks or making alt acounts for farming.


Yes, put it in your signature. Now stop posting if you don't have something new and constructive to add.

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:05

Dude i´m not native english speaker this is my english level.

Do i make fun of you if u try to speak in spanish or another language that u don´t know very well?


Neither am I. Just be assured that we all got your point by now, there is no need to repeat it over and over again like some sort of mantra.
I will rephrase the content you wrote about 89 times so far so you can see that I really got the message: A player who wants to improve the game by suggesting something should be the first to act accordingly. I got it ok, but it's not the topic of this thread, so stop it.
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08.04.2015 - 06:40
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:03

Do you agree or not?

No i don't agree ...what you are proposing is stupid.

Lets say a 100 players agree not to duel low ranks ....there will be one guy who does and fucks up your system
Lets say a 1.000 players agree not to duel low ranks ...there will be that one guy who does and fucks up everyone else.
Lets say a 10.000 players agree not to duel low ranks ...there will be now that one guy who fucks 10.000 people

Then lets think about ...what is a low rank? ...obviously that is subjective, since i see ranks 6 and 7 in YOUR DUELS

And guess what, i consider ranks below 8 ...low ranks. ...you hypocrite piece of shit and a farmer who has 50.000 turns more played then i do. How fucking dare you play anyone you experienced asshole...
See the problem?

Then there is another issue ...there are low ranks who want to play higher ranks!
Who the fuck are you to restrict any player on who he can play and duel with?

Now i'm reading about rating systems on the net, trying to find some formula or a better rating system that makes dueling players much below less fruitless ...and what are you doing ...

...repeating the same retarded shit that isn't a viable solution, that i understood fucking 2 years ago and you keep repeating it to me like I DON'T UNDERSTAND?
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08.04.2015 - 06:50
Napisano od Goblin, 08.04.2015 at 06:40

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:03

Do you agree or not?

No i don't agree ...what you are proposing is stupid.

Lets say a 100 players agree not to duel low ranks ....there will be one guy who does and fucks up your system
Lets say a 1.000 players agree not to duel low ranks ...there will be that one guy who does and fucks up everyone else.
Lets say a 10.000 players agree not to duel low ranks ...there will be now that one guy who fucks 10.000 people

Then lets think about ...what is a low rank? ...obviously that is subjective, since i see ranks 6 and 7 in YOUR DUELS

And guess what, i consider ranks below 8 ...low ranks. ...you hypocrite piece of shit and a farmer who has 50.000 turns more played then i do. How fucking dare you play anyone you experienced asshole...
See the problem?

Then there is another issue ...there are low ranks who want to play higher ranks!
Who the fuck are you to restrict any player on who he can play and duel with?

Now i'm reading about rating systems on the net, trying to find some formula or a better rating system that makes dueling players much below less fruitless ...and what are you doing ...

...repeating the same retarded shit that isn't a viable solution, that i understood fucking 2 years ago and you keep repeating it to me like I DON'T UNDERSTAND?



Yes you look like you don´t understand it.

I´ll try to explain to you it again.

Low rank for me and most of the players is rank 6 or less.

There are many ranks 7 8 9 etc with a decent elo and they are good players and with skills and difficult to beat, i don´t consider it farming.

I consider farming playing rank 6 or less especially 3 or 4 or 5, or, ranks 9 or 10 with 860 elo points, that shows you perfectly how good or bad is he in duels.
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08.04.2015 - 06:54
Napisano od Guest, 08.04.2015 at 02:22

Never


Stop copying me, you and pavle. Ty
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08.04.2015 - 06:58
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:50

Napisano od Goblin, 08.04.2015 at 06:40

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:03

Do you agree or not?

No i don't agree ...what you are proposing is stupid.

Lets say a 100 players agree not to duel low ranks ....there will be one guy who does and fucks up your system
Lets say a 1.000 players agree not to duel low ranks ...there will be that one guy who does and fucks up everyone else.
Lets say a 10.000 players agree not to duel low ranks ...there will be now that one guy who fucks 10.000 people

Then lets think about ...what is a low rank? ...obviously that is subjective, since i see ranks 6 and 7 in YOUR DUELS

And guess what, i consider ranks below 8 ...low ranks. ...you hypocrite piece of shit and a farmer who has 50.000 turns more played then i do. How fucking dare you play anyone you experienced asshole...
See the problem?




Then there is another issue ...there are low ranks who want to play higher ranks!
Who the fuck are you to restrict any player on who he can play and duel with?

Now i'm reading about rating systems on the net, trying to find some formula or a better rating system that makes dueling players much below less fruitless ...and what are you doing ...

...repeating the same retarded shit that isn't a viable solution, that i understood fucking 2 years ago and you keep repeating it to me like I DON'T UNDERSTAND?



Yes you look like you don´t understand it.

I´ll try to explain to you it again.

Low rank for me and most of the players is rank 6 or less.

There are many ranks 7 8 9 etc with a decent elo and they are good players and with skills and difficult to beat, i don´t consider it farming.

I consider farming playing rank 6 or less especially 3 or 4 or 5, or, ranks 9 or 10 with 860 elo points, that shows you perfectly ho good or bad is he in duels.
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08.04.2015 - 07:00
Napisano od Goblin, 08.04.2015 at 06:47

Fucking amazing ...dude duels ranks 6 and 7

> Constantly talks about hypocrisy



I normally duel ranks 7 and above.

You will find maybe a rank 6, who was the tipical player send you a duel request in the middle of a game.

I don´t duel ranks 3 4 or 5

Neither rp players or unknown players.
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08.04.2015 - 07:04
And dude, if i wanted i could duel low ranks but i don´t do.

I remember you i´m not premium, so it´s me who join in the duels and try to join usually in a rank 7+
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08.04.2015 - 07:05
Ranks 7 8 or 9 are considered medium ranks, not low ranks.
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08.04.2015 - 07:09
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:50

Yes you look like you don´t understand it.

I´ll try to explain to you it again.

Low rank for me and most of the players is rank 6 or less.

There are many ranks 7 8 9 etc with a decent elo and they are good players and with skills and difficult to beat, i don´t consider it farming.

I consider farming playing rank 6 or less especially 3 or 4 or 5, or, ranks 9 or 10 with 860 elo points, that shows you perfectly ho good or bad is he in duels.

What you consider is irrelevant, as it is your personal opinion.

Then i repeat once more ...you dueled a rank 6 recently. Hypocrite fucking shit.

And understand finally, that your words and sentences are understandable ...they are just idiotic as you are.
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08.04.2015 - 07:10
Don´t need to insult me ok? am i insulting you?

Am i a farmer cause i played lot of turns? What does turns mean?

Farming is dueling low ranks who has no chance to beat you, or getting rank 10 or 11 playing RP or only 50k games, or getting rank 10 playing only ancient games or that ancient games 10 turns mayhet or whatever is called.

That´s so funny, i´m a farmer when mostly what i play is low money games especially 1v1 3k or 1v1 5k.

If i have played lot of turns is cause i played maybe lot of games, where is the problem in the number of turns?

Disagree, u could have called me farmer if i would reached rank 11 with only 200 games won like there are many players, or playing only 300 turns, that´s is really farming too.

Lol u are funny and don´t know what are u saying.
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08.04.2015 - 07:12
Hormi made Gob mad

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08.04.2015 - 07:15
Napisano od Goblin, 08.04.2015 at 07:09

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:50

Yes you look like you don´t understand it.

I´ll try to explain to you it again.

Low rank for me and most of the players is rank 6 or less.

There are many ranks 7 8 9 etc with a decent elo and they are good players and with skills and difficult to beat, i don´t consider it farming.

I consider farming playing rank 6 or less especially 3 or 4 or 5, or, ranks 9 or 10 with 860 elo points, that shows you perfectly ho good or bad is he in duels.

What you consider is irrelevant, as it is your personal opinion.

Then i repeat once more ...you dueled a rank 6 recently. Hypocrite fucking shit.

And understand finally, that your words and sentences are understandable ...they are just idiotic as you are.



It´s not only me it´s most of the player about that consideration.

So yours is irrelevant too.

And if u are talking about a rank 6 i dueled 91 days ago, yes, i did, cause he sent duel request in the middle of a game, but as u can see it´s not my ethic and my normal level in duels.

Not the same than u, dueling ranks 5 frecuently.
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08.04.2015 - 07:22
Well it looks like you can understand it perfectly when u always reply me.
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08.04.2015 - 07:26
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:15

Napisano od Goblin, 08.04.2015 at 07:09

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:50

Yes you look like you don´t understand it.

I´ll try to explain to you it again.

Low rank for me and most of the players is rank 6 or less.

There are many ranks 7 8 9 etc with a decent elo and they are good players and with skills and difficult to beat, i don´t consider it farming.

I consider farming playing rank 6 or less especially 3 or 4 or 5, or, ranks 9 or 10 with 860 elo points, that shows you perfectly ho good or bad is he in duels.

What you consider is irrelevant, as it is your personal opinion.

Then i repeat once more ...you dueled a rank 6 recently. Hypocrite fucking shit.

And understand finally, that your words and sentences are understandable ...they are just idiotic as you are.



It´s not only me it´s most of the player about that consideration.

So yours is irrelevant too.

And i u are talking about a rank 6 i dueled 91 days ago, yes, i did, cause he sent duel request in the middle of a game, but as u can see it´s not my ethic and my normal level in duels.

Not the same than u, dueling ranks 5 fecuently.


I was enjoying watching ur conversation, even thinking about making popcorn, but heeeeey hormiga, dont go that far to say something negative on Goblins duel opponents or something connected with that.
U are definitely not allowed to do that..

Everytime I join AW, there is open Goblin's duel and nobody joins there. Once I was chatting with him 10 minutes while he was waiting for opponent. Than some rank 5 joined and, since he was bored of waiting, he played vs him, I would do same on his place.

Another thing, take a look on number of Goblins duels, take a look on win/loss ratio, take a look on opponents at global.

Now take a look on your duels, your win/loss ratio and your duel opponents.
Funny, isnt it?

Last thing,
I may be Goblins god, but Goblin can certanly be your god, so stop posting your dumby comments trying to compare urself and ur duel list with Goblin.
Better go pray to him
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08.04.2015 - 07:29
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:15

It´s not only me it´s most of the player about that consideration.

So yours is irrelevant too.

And i u are talking about a rank 6 i dueled 91 days ago, yes, i did, cause he sent duel request in the middle of a game, but as u can see it´s not my ethic and my normal level in duels.

Not the same than u, dueling ranks 5 fecuently.

You can read above ...that that is what i said. Its subjective.

#learnenglish

Count my duels as they are all visible now and its clear most of my duels are against high ranks.

So you saying i frequently duel ranks 5 is not only a lie, but an insult as well.
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08.04.2015 - 07:34
Napisano od Croat, 08.04.2015 at 07:26

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:15

Napisano od Goblin, 08.04.2015 at 07:09

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 06:50

Yes you look like you don´t understand it.

I´ll try to explain to you it again.

Low rank for me and most of the players is rank 6 or less.

There are many ranks 7 8 9 etc with a decent elo and they are good players and with skills and difficult to beat, i don´t consider it farming.

I consider farming playing rank 6 or less especially 3 or 4 or 5, or, ranks 9 or 10 with 860 elo points, that shows you perfectly ho good or bad is he in duels.

What you consider is irrelevant, as it is your personal opinion.

Then i repeat once more ...you dueled a rank 6 recently. Hypocrite fucking shit.

And understand finally, that your words and sentences are understandable ...they are just idiotic as you are.



It´s not only me it´s most of the player about that consideration.

So yours is irrelevant too.

And i u are talking about a rank 6 i dueled 91 days ago, yes, i did, cause he sent duel request in the middle of a game, but as u can see it´s not my ethic and my normal level in duels.

Not the same than u, dueling ranks 5 fecuently.


I was enjoying watching ur conversation, even thinking about making popcorn, but heeeeey hormiga, dont go that far to say something negative on Goblins duel opponents or something connected with that.
U are not allowed to do that..

Everytime I join AW, there is open Goblin's duel and nobody joins there. Once I was chatting with him 10 minutes while he was waiting for opponent. Than some rank 5 joined and, since he was bored of waiting, he played vs him, I would do same on his place.

Another thing, take a look on number of Goblins duels, take a look on win/loss ratio, take a look on opponents at global.

Now take a look on your duels, your win/loss ratio and your duel opponents.
Funny, isnt it?

Last thing,
I may be Goblins god, but Goblin can certanly be your god, so stop posting your dumby comments trying to compare urself and ur duel list with Goblin.
Better go pray to him



Agree with some arguments, cause he for example plays duels mostly.

I don´t care about ratio or number of duels, and of course i´m not comparing with him, i´m not obsesed with duels like he does.

What i disagree is farming low ranks, lot of times i´m waiting for a long too in my games and join a rank 3 or 4 and i leave the game or tell him not to play, AND IT¨S NOT A DUEL, where u are wining or loosing elo points.
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08.04.2015 - 07:36
Sorry but I´ll never pray a farmer and especially a person who is insulting me.
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08.04.2015 - 07:38
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:36

Sorry but I´ll never pray a farmer and especially a person who is insulting me.


Goblin farmer?

hahahahahxaxaxazazzazaxx


Nice drugs, btw
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08.04.2015 - 07:42
Napisano od Croat, 08.04.2015 at 07:38

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:36

Sorry but I´ll never pray a farmer and especially a person who is insulting me.


Goblin farmer?

hahahahahxaxaxazazzazaxx


Nice drugs, btw



Yes, a rank 11 without ethic, playing whatever rank (5 or 12), or elo points (850 or 1500) that joins in his game is a farmer.
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08.04.2015 - 07:45
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:42

Napisano od Croat, 08.04.2015 at 07:38

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:36

Sorry but I´ll never pray a farmer and especially a person who is insulting me.


Goblin farmer?

hahahahahxaxaxazazzazaxx


Nice drugs, btw



Yes, a rank 11 without ethic playing whatever rank (5 or 12) or elo points (850 or 1500) that joins in his game is a farmer.


Hormi,
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to
my
mother,
you
are
dumbest
person
I
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08.04.2015 - 07:55
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Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 05:21

Napisano od Htin, 07.04.2015 at 19:44

Hold on, where would all the accumulation of elo go? it's like that jusicy elo just disappear out of thin air, how about the people who have less than 1000 elo, now they can't fight it back to get theri elo back. So elo point wil lbe less scarce.



Yes they can, always can recover their elo.

they can but will be less scarce. meaning their less of a elo pool. If you want to reset elo point you goutta reset eveyone
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08.04.2015 - 08:12
Napisano od Croat, 08.04.2015 at 07:45

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:42

Napisano od Croat, 08.04.2015 at 07:38

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:36

Sorry but I´ll never pray a farmer and especially a person who is insulting me.


Goblin farmer?

hahahahahxaxaxazazzazaxx


Nice drugs, btw



Yes, a rank 11 without ethic playing whatever rank (5 or 12) or elo points (850 or 1500) that joins in his game is a farmer.


Hormi,
I
swear
to
my
mother,
you
are
dumbest
person
I
have
ever
seen
on
Atwar



¿?

Why cause i say the true?
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08.04.2015 - 08:17
Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 08:12

Napisano od Croat, 08.04.2015 at 07:45

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:42

Napisano od Croat, 08.04.2015 at 07:38

Napisano od hormigaatomica, 08.04.2015 at 07:36

Sorry but I´ll never pray a farmer and especially a person who is insulting me.


Goblin farmer?

hahahahahxaxaxazazzazaxx


Nice drugs, btw



Yes, a rank 11 without ethic playing whatever rank (5 or 12) or elo points (850 or 1500) that joins in his game is a farmer.


Hormi,
I
swear
to
my
mother,
you
are
dumbest
person
I
have
ever
seen
on
Atwar



¿?

Why cause i say the true?



And u are doing the same?

Bah, this is going to anyplace.

You are that "dumbest" persons, making that duels with that ranks.
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08.04.2015 - 08:23
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08.04.2015 - 08:35
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