Donations for Refugees
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To everyone who wants or doesn't want refugees in Europe , any small amount will be very helpful. To all those who claim to be humanitarian in online game , everyone is welcome to donate on new google campaing "Donation for Refugees & Immigrants "
IF you don't want them in Europe feel free to donate so they can find somewhere else, but if you don't want to donate that means you don't like helping refugees and stop using "they are illegal immigrants" excuse.
To those who hate them because they muslims, we are all humans! Someone's religion is his/her personal choise that doesn't mean we should let them starve to death.
Put yourself in their shoes. It doesn't matter if they came here as refugees or immigrants. They CAME HERE FOR A REASON! If they would not feel the need of coming here, they would not have came in Europe.
Go to google.com and click on DONATE option to donate any amount. Thank you
IF you don't want them in Europe feel free to donate so they can find somewhere else, but if you don't want to donate that means you don't like helping refugees and stop using "they are illegal immigrants" excuse.
To those who hate them because they muslims, we are all humans! Someone's religion is his/her personal choise that doesn't mean we should let them starve to death.
Put yourself in their shoes. It doesn't matter if they came here as refugees or immigrants. They CAME HERE FOR A REASON! If they would not feel the need of coming here, they would not have came in Europe.
Go to google.com and click on DONATE option to donate any amount. Thank you
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Oh and to everyone especially khal : A muslims when it goes to another country or even in his own country, he/she is obligated to follow that country laws and not speak bad of it. If he/she doesn't like that country, they can leave. So its not religion who makes ppl act bad in other countries, its ppl itself
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Read reason behind Turkey. Again I am saying that no Gulf State, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman are accepting Syrian and Iraqi refuges. Which is questionable considering how they are one of the wealthiest countries in the world giving them the financial means to do so, share a border with these countries and share similar culture and religion with these people. There are over 6.4 million total refuges spread across Europe from Somalia and Congo to Iraq and Afghanistan so telling the EU only has 400k is plan wrong. Lets not forget Germany alone is about to house 600k more refuges(by end of the month) and the rest of EU countries will collectively house 400k.
The problem is not cultural integration but rather a social integration, which is evident Muslims in many countries are not for i.e France and UK. It wrong when you come to country, live of their welfare, take their jobs, housing and money then ask for them to suit your needs instead of changing yourself to suit the country.
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As i said saudi took 2.5m syrians and germany has already closed borders. Also when i go to a new country i EARN my money and i pay my taxes to live their welfare, BUT. It doesnt mean i have to be americanized or have their culture. You dnt live here u dnt know how it is here man where ppl have no morals or self respect
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No Saudi does not house 2.5 million Syrians that a plain made up fact. Saudi house exactly 0 Syrian refuges, stop coming up with lies they only make tarnish your image. (click) (click)
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1. You earn your money and thats good. Did you ask the Europeans countries if they have job openings for tenths of thousand of immigrants? Most of the countries have a high-ish unemployment of their own and huge external debts and already high taxation as it is. 2. Americans dont have morals and culture and you have? Are you for real? I would like for you to state these morals and values please. Because on the risk of sounding racist (i am not) the minute Albanians started coming in to our country, is the minute we started locking our doors. Im not even exaggerating, i was old enough to have witnessed this. We saw a huge rise in robberies, murders, assaults, rapes, drug trafficing, prostitution and generally such ruthless criminals, with so much disregard for human life, we had never witnessed before. Hate to generalise but Russians are kiddies in front of you and you seem to enjoy hearing about it, for some reason this is not an insult towards you, but rather a praise. All that Albanians seem to want out of life, is fight every day, get drunk, get laid and somehow get paid. They mock and bully kids who read at school and they create trouble all day. They claim that real men fight, hit their wives and carry a weapon and that Greeks are pussies and faggots because they are civilised, accepting and trying to live a normal life. What morals are these, because for the life of me, i dont get it. Do the new immigrants carry the same morals. No stop, i dont really want to know.
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Russia was occupied by Mongols for 300 years, parts of Russia (belarus and ukraine) were occupied by Poland for centuries. Serbia was occupied by Turkey for 500 years and genocided by Croatia. Yet you wont find them hating on nations. There was an opinion poll in Serbia whether to ethnically cleanse Kosovo because Serbs live there for centuries while Albanians arrived in after WWII and none said it should be kicked because it is against religion and humanity. Another poll was in Russia about kicking non-Russians and none said they should be kicked because without them it wont be homogenous Russia, because they are born on Russian soil. Polls were in 2000's but i would like to find links.
Thats what i thought. Human need religion and when he is atheist, he fill that empty hole with something else. Then he accuse religious people of being barbaric for worshiping.
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It is a lie, how about you post a source like meester did, unless you can't find one because Saudis haven't taken in any refugees
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No one can deny that Arabs and Muslims want to help Syrian people and No one can blame Syrians for escaping from death because you would do the same if you were in their place They are not your problem the fact is you are their problem lol they expected hospitality and generosity... where is your kindness??!
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Who doesn't share this life goals khal???
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What are you blabbering about? What was all this shit and who cares? I dont care about Russia and Serbia not hating, lol thats a good one, anyway i care about Europe. The sole reason we are prosperous, advanced and wealthy as a union, is because of secularism and modernity. And thats the reason why every single one of the muslim countries are not developed and failing, oil being the reason some of them are not. When they choose to abandon the same things that led to their doom, namely religion and tradition, we and I will do everything in my power to accept them and help them in any way i can. Moreso, speaking of secularism, countries of the West, especially in Europe, are the only ones that stand appart from the global trend of "religiosity" and hence their dominance in science, technology, economics and human rights. That is except offcourse from the migrant islamic communities in Europe, who are not only weakening but instead increasing at horrifying rates, becoming the religion on the rise in a continent in which its own religion is in decline.  Note also, that while the world is suffering from overpopulation, muslims have double the fertility rates of Europeans and live in conditions of war and poverty. Europe already has 20 million muslims, multiplying and organizing in their own isolated communities, already vocal about laws, politics and societal norms and expressing views of violence and intolerance both in theory, through polls, interviews and gatherings and both in practice, through protests, assaults and threats and yet you want to add more of them? Its obvious you are a hypocrite and just want to see Europe fall and burn. 
Thats right, i damn well accuse and with evidence. When the punishment for apostacy under Islamic law is death, i dont need much more. Try to argue with common sense. As for christians i dont really care, we live in modern, advanced societies and scientists took upon the burden to deal with them and they did a brilliant job. The ones who still believe are usually irrelevant and the only threat comes from religious people who attain positions of power, namely politicians. They are still doing some harm, but at acceptable levels. As for atheists its about time you give it a rest. You have zero arguments. On the other hand i have. There have been at least 50 official studies that suggest a negative relation between intelligence and religiosity. And not to mention tenths of online or school/university tests/studies that suggest the same thing, atheists have higher IQ than theists. And thats all the difference there is. As for the holes, yes they do fill it with other things like education, art, entertainment, sex, sports and etc Whats so bad about that? Now, just because you are not smart enough, or willing to put the work to have a minimum scientific literacy, that will allow you to understand how things around you work, doesnt mean you have to be envious and attack the smarter and more reasonable people that do.
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i certainly do not. Also you forgot the premises which are : Ugly, smelly, uneducated, unemployed. Add these 4 premises as properties of the individual and suddenly all the above 4 practices become felonies.
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Why do you care anyway, immigrants are going for West Europe, not Greece. they know Greece is broke. Beside, you country was 500 years under Turkish occupation and West Europe didnt help, in fact some of them even allied Turkey and had trade with them. Let THEM now live under traditional islam and have problems (as you claim they will) while you will be free. Why do you support them when they didnt support you when you needed help? 
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Yes, if i was selfish i could hate West Europe, for all their backstabing or their recent economic and foreign policies. But i am firstly a human, above all else and for the last hundred of years the West is working for my interests as a human, not the East and certainly not the Middle East. The age of enlightenment was a pivotal period in our species development and allowed us to have everything we do now. Disconecting from religion and tradition, the West took our civilization hundred of years forward, not only in science and technology but socially and politically too. The West is still leading our planet, like it or not, its the truth. I have interests as a human, that the West keep flourishing. Because i expect NASA to get us further in space and get us out of our galaxy. I expect scientists at CERN to solve the mysteries of space-time, i expect biochemists to build nano cells that will heal us, i expect our engineers to build highly productive and safe nuclear power plants so we can stop destroying the earth by burning coal, i expect enviromentalists to raise awareness and come up with policies and methods, so corporations dont make the earth a radioactive, uninhabitable, cancer causing shithole. I expect the West to carry on with technological innovations, continue to make my life easier and safer and owning the Noble prizes and i expect the Western culture to continue on a path towards more democracy, freedom and social equality. To purposely support Islamization of Europe and USA, is simply stupid, its basically holding a gun to my own head and pulling the trigger. Are these enough? I think im done here.
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Why are you so anti-greek... i never met atheist to love his people, you are really weird. One thing doesnt exclude the first you know.
True, they froze your money in their banks, leaving greek civilians without cash. Then they gave you loan with 50% interest rate and took your islands as compensation. Did you forgot how English, Americans and Germans took Greek wealth and moved it to their states? What are greek pillars doing in America, what are greek statues doing in England?
Except you didnt experienced it because they didnt help you against Asian invasion. You were slave while they prospered in art, science and economy.
Or backward, depends how you look. All progress made is zero if we take in consideration how much suffer they brought to this world. 10 famines created in India to starve 80 million to death by England, Americans cleansed natives to steal their land, Belgians raped and butchered Congolese for not collecting cotton on time, Dutch genocided Indonesians. Thats not civilized.
True, lead in debt, lead us to crisis, we jump from war to war, from crisis to crisis. Without West world would have 90% less problems. Look at World progress before Europeans started conquering. South America had Incas, Aztecs and Mayas, builders and architects, they had cities of millions when white european behaved like monkey. China had culture and creativity, building cities, infrastructure, art, martial arts, gunpowder, tea, paper. Arab Muslim World had art, architecture, thriving economy and financials. Think about it.
but NASA pay Russia to take them to space... they are hitchhiking ride on Russian rockets xD You expect wrong part of the world to lead us in space exploration. Or you forgot who sent first rocket, first dog, first satelliate, first man, first women, who had space station built in space without anyone help and who is selling rocket engines to NASA?
What about India and Iran, they are highly traditional and yet they dont lack far behind in science from West. 20-30% of Western scientists are actually imported by India and Iran. As i said, you dont have to be atheist and anti-your country to be smart scientist.
Find out who is slowing down progress to find cure for cancer and aids. You will be surprized. Do you really think West will allow cure for cancer and fire 10 million workers in pharmaceutical industry and hospitals and lose billions of dollars people spend on medication just so civilians are healthy and have no need to spend? Dont be silly.
They are making technological progress and innovation, but at what cost. Do we really need to suffer more just because they invented something? They do one good thing followed by 10 bad things like wars, sanctions, provokation, stealing. Why putting up with that? Isnt it better to have peace?
By making you wait in line 10h to get 400 euros on bank machine and fighting wars on middle east which bring million refugees to you.
Like Obama got Nobel for peace while he started 7 wars? Thats cronism and corruption, they are same people giving each other awards and medals ignoring real achievements. I talked about that, 20 years ago some Western scientists invented 3 layer silicon chip and got award for that and week later Russians sent 9 layer silicon chip to show them they are far ahead of them with the words 'we dont brag, neither you are interest in our achievements'. East is not lagging behind in innovation, just you wont hear for them because West is ignoring and filming only West. But now when East created its own media and started reporting achievements, westerners call it propaganda. Really sad.
Towards homosexuality, pedophilia, necrophilia, dendrophilia? Ive heard masturbators want special rooms in workplace so they can masturbate when they have launch break or pause. Whats next, freedom to have sex with children? 50 years ago it was unimaginable to allow gays, who guarantees me that in 50 years people will not give freedom to pedophiles? And whats next after that, not allowed to not allow? So someone wants to rape a women and she have no right to take his right away and she must let him rape her? Jewish book said that will happen, 'it will be forbiden to forbid', the only law. Result will be anarchy, people killing, raping and stealing each other.
They want to live and work just other humans... what islamization, are you afraid of 2 mosques they will build in Europe? How Russia doesnt have problem with Muslims, and there are 20 million Muslims in Russia. Still coming from central asia to work in Russia, 2 million of them reside in Moscow. Mosque near downtown in Grozny, Russia    christian priest talking to muslims outside mosque  Soviet Chechen WWII Veterans on Victory Parade  Moscow have 2 million Muslims, they pray together on their holy day   
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Just came to this thread (which was supposed to be an invite for doing a noble gesture and turned into a mud hole because of the same people) to say this: Proof? No? Okay. Valid proof would be the Quran or a Hadeeth saying apostasy (thanks for teaching me a new word xa) is punishable by death. On the contrary, as a Muslim it's instilled in me to treat everyone equally and whoever is not doing that (like I told you several times before in that other thread) isn't following Islam dutifully. Thus, the problem is not in the religion itself, but in the people not following the religion holistically. Its not all your fault for generalizing Islam for the action of some Muslims because unfortunately the scope that you see through (media, internet, RL interactions) is limited to showing more who do not follow Islam dutifully than those who do. Here's a Soora instructing us to let the people with other religions be. Feel free to scour every single word of the Quran and use it for your arguments, because there lies the true source of your evidence if you really want to continue fighting our noble religion.
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I like how Tito uses Grozny as an example of muslims peacefully co existing with others even though Russian army had to intervene there several times
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i would let it slide, but i think your willfull ignorance and motivated reasoning is hands down criminal. we are dealing with human lifes here, you have a responsibility to your people who are opressed and suffering to know better. anyway i will just use wikipedia as a fast and unbiased source for this.  
 
First of all that is your anecdotal experience and in a world of 1,2 billion muslims doesnt account for much. Secondly, i dont think you have the credentials or authority to claim you know the correct and factual interpretation of the teachings of Islam. Seems like everyone and i mean everyone in the muslim world, interprets the Quran and Hadith, exactly the way he wants to, or suits his needs.
Stop making it seem like its only a bunch of random people. Its a great percentage and the majority in alot of cases. You are the minority. And you are misled by your media, not me.    Note that the 6 gulf muslim countries refused to be surveyed. How democratic of them. Not the first time they do that. So, the majority in your country (86%) disagree with you and believe apostates should be punished by death. I could post specific events that took place, but sheding negative light in your country is not my intention. I will tell you this though, if you are afraid for your life, i can understand that. But keep in mind you are among friends here, you have nothing to fear and you dont have to defend the undefendable. And your duty is to your people and the people of the world, not to your religion. i will close with a video, on the "most muslims are peacefull". Even though it is a false statement since they are not, Briggite Gabriel gives a pretty satisfying answer. I also find her very hot (although she gained some weight) and her voice sexy .
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Hmm, putting Russians and Chinese in the same basket with Nazi Germans and Ultranationalist Japanese from WWII. Plus using fake numbers of victims in Russia and China generalizing and speaking without mentioning era. So this is the new method of the West to reduce Russian and Chinese reputation. Interesting, thanks for the video, i learned from it. It reminds me of American movie 'Rambo' when 'Russians' 'invade' Afghanistan and torture people using attack helicopters over villages and one-man-army(Rambo) comes to save the day. Time has come, for West to collapse and disintegrate, it is impossible to live on lies and propaganda anymore. Expect 50 new countries in North America and 15 new countries in Europe.
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First of all, >wikipiedia.  Secondly, I can admit when I'm wrong and opinion has changed (unlike 99% of the people here  ) . As you can see I stated I learned a new word (apostasy) and from a shallow google search concluded it is something that it is not. It actually means switching from believing to disbelieving. This is a whole other story. Let's give you some historical context. When Islam was spreading there were some who joined from fear of Mohamed Sallah Allah Alaiehy Wa Salam, and when he died and Abu Bakr ElSedik became the first Khalifa these people apostatized from Islam. The only way for Abu Bakr to prove Islam isn't dead with the death of Mohamed is to fight them back and prove to everyone Islam is meant for all places and times. That is where this punishment came from. Also you make it seem like people are getting murdered in the streets every day for apostasy. Newsflash, this doesn't happen. Again extreme cases like Pakistan and Afghanistan are misrepresenting the wests view of Islam.
''First of all that is your anecdotal experience and in a world of 1,2 billion muslims doesnt account for much. Secondly, i dont think you have the credentials or authority to claim you know the correct and factual interpretation of the teachings of Islam. Seems like everyone and i mean everyone in the muslim world, interprets the Quran and Hadith, exactly the way he wants to, or suits his needs.'' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't, but if you read the translations in the site I linked you you would see it is easily interpretable. Go read the Quran and make your own judgements. My point when linking that Soorah is that Islam accepts living besides people of any religion (and no religion) and letting people have their own beliefs freely. Also I don't think you have the credentials or authority to claim you know the correct or factual interpretations of Islamic law based and how people interpret it based on wikipedia and biased media. And no I gave you an anecdotal experience of what a Muslim trying to follow Islam as closely as possible does. I live in a Muslim country and see many people following Islam as closely as they can and others not. In the end of the day you don't know what's inside a person, but my example was someone who was raised to follow Islam dutifully. I agree some people interpret the Quran and Hadith in their own way and those are the people who don't follow Islam dutifully and have agendas. I am disgusted by those people as I am disgusted by those who move any rules to fit their agenda.
''Stop making it seem like its only a bunch of random people. Its a great percentage and the majority in alot of cases. You are the minority. And you are misled by your media, not me.'' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Still didn't get my point. Its not the religion. And no, I am not misled by the media because it isn't my source for viewing Muslims unlike you I live in a Muslim country. This is how it is (I am a viable source here because I've seen and interacted with all): The very poor people are desperate and often don't follow Islam in terms of honesty, stealing, etc. The poor-low middle class people mostly follow Islam dutifully because they aren't exposed to meaningless distractions of western culture and globalization. The normal/high middle class follow Islam in heart and most in actions, but sometimes they don't do all the things they have to because of these distractions. The high class group is where it gets sketchy for a fair percentage because this money allows more room for play. Still a majority follow Islam dutifully. This isn't really anything new to you because the same can be said about people anywhere holding a set of morals and rules. That's what Islam is based on right; spirituality, morals, and rules that regulate your life and strive to make the whole world a better place. These websites might clear some things on the issue of apostasy. Which is switching from believing to disbelieving (think back to that historical context) : http://www.refugeelegalaidinformation.org/apostasy-or-conversion http://islamqa.info/en/20327 '' I will tell you this though, if you are afraid for your life, i can understand that. But keep in mind you are among friends here, you have nothing to fear and you dont have to defend the undefendable. And your duty is to your people and the people of the world, not to your religion.'' I'm defending my beliefs because I'm disgusted by your and others comments, aggression, and biasness. I live in a loving community who would never kill me because of what I say. You make it seem like I'm desperately making up arguments justifying my religion, but in reality I could just go all out offensive and every single other belief because in my heart I know there is nothing more pure than Islam (expecting another filth, murder, and oppression comment here ). It works for me and many others, so why don't you let us be and go attack someone for their political ideologies instead. Remember that Soorah, you have your religion (or don't hahaha) and I have mine. Religion, such a powerful word. C:I think I'm done here since we're arguing two different angles. You're giving me socio-economic evidence, statistics and wikipedia of how Muslims are bad while I'm using the Quran, my experiences, and the two websites above to make my points. I could go on with Islam's view of a perfect world etc etc but there's no point since your opinion is carved in stone from birth (so are my beliefs, but not opinions. ). Go ahead, make more provocative comments, link some stats and pics, make 'humanitarian' statements, and link videos I couldn't be bothered watching because I know it will be somebody doing the same you're doing here. Just repeating myself over and over again. It won't do anybody any good as I'll just reply with the same things and you'll do the same of you.
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You KNOW shit is hitting the fan when even Khaleesi is saying 'send them all back!" I already donate. Not to illegals who rape, murder, rob and burn. I donate to British Homeless, British Kids and British wildlife. When I use to smoke, I'd always give one of mine to a homeless man, especially if he was a veteran. My labour goes to my people and no one else. These illegals are invaders. I said it many times:
You were all warned. Europe needs you, every penny you spend on a foreign business or a foreign person is one penny less for your people. Don't give them a single thing, not even a smile. This is tribal warfare on a grand scale and you need to start picking sides. Because if there's wins, you lose.
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Immigrants go to Western Europe which is 60% of European Continent, 40% of Europe is in Russia. Therefore Russia is immigrant-free. Woohoo! http://prntscr.com/8jc84q
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