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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

13.10.2016 - 15:14
Which Triumvir will you follow?
Flavius Sertorius (Aetius)

Consul Vote (consuls may pick their co-consul)
1) Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) + ?


Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Flavius Sertorius (Aetius)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
2)Nerva Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Recall Flavius Sertorius (Aetius) as governor of Greece and replace with Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus )
1)Aye

Appoint Kato Flavius (Witch-Doctor)as Governor of Nearer Spain?
1)Aye

Appoint Flavius Numertorius (JF) as Governor of Corsica Sardinia?
1)Aye

Force Deployments
1)
Parthian War: 2 fleets,6 Legions, Herculiani, Gallica ,Apollinaris, Candidus
Cilician Pirates: 2 Fleets 2 Legions, Obeliscus


Trial of Metellus Cornelius Scipio
1) Execution

Trial of Lars Pedius
1) Execution

Trial of Kairos Varius
2)Exile


Tax Farmer Concessions + 2 talents:
Andertius Paullus (Pavle
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13.10.2016 - 16:15
 JF.
All 1, All aye. No trial votes

Concession myself. I have none
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13.10.2016 - 16:16
Do I choose a side now or wait till I return
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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13.10.2016 - 16:27
Explain how I get convicted of treason.

Treason is the crime of trying to overthrow your country's government or of helping your country's enemies during war.

I did not help my countries enemies...the rebellion. I did not try to overthrow the current government. I did not commit treason.

This is my defence for my case.
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13.10.2016 - 16:42
Napisano od JF., 13.10.2016 at 16:15

All 1, All aye. No trial votes

Concession myself. I have none


Pick Triumvir

Napisano od Pheonixking929, 13.10.2016 at 16:16

Do I choose a side now or wait till I return


Now or when you return, both are fine.


@Zenith
If you had surrendered when rome was lost your argument would be valid but you were captured as part of a rebellion (despite its legitimacy) against the official state by that point.
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13.10.2016 - 16:45
 JF.
Napisano od Aetius, 13.10.2016 at 16:42



I'll follow you
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13.10.2016 - 16:46
Napisano od Aetius, 13.10.2016 at 16:42

Napisano od JF., 13.10.2016 at 16:15

All 1, All aye. No trial votes

Concession myself. I have none


Pick Triumvir

Napisano od Pheonixking929, 13.10.2016 at 16:16

Do I choose a side now or wait till I return


Now or when you return, both are fine.


@Zenith
If you had surrendered when rome was lost your argument would be valid but you were captured as part of a rebellion (despite its legitimacy) against the official state by that point.

If I wait till I return, what happens to my evocati?
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13.10.2016 - 16:57
Napisano od Pheonixking929, 13.10.2016 at 16:46

If I wait till I return, what happens to my evocati?


idk, stands to reason you can assign them to a triumvir now or order them to hang out in italy waiting for your heir to come of age.
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13.10.2016 - 17:38
Napisano od Aetius, 13.10.2016 at 16:42

Napisano od JF., 13.10.2016 at 16:15

All 1, All aye. No trial votes

Concession myself. I have none


Pick Triumvir

Napisano od Pheonixking929, 13.10.2016 at 16:16

Do I choose a side now or wait till I return


Now or when you return, both are fine.


@Zenith
If you had surrendered when rome was lost your argument would be valid but you were captured as part of a rebellion (despite its legitimacy) against the official state by that point.

waaaaat? i never joined in a rebellion against the trumvirate or whatever ur called. I joined in a coalition to defend rome from you guys. i was captured when rome was lost as far as i knew.
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13.10.2016 - 20:12
Welp, to keep game interesting I shall support Pyrrhus.
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13.10.2016 - 20:28
 Witch-Doctor (Moderator)
Pyrrhus
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13.10.2016 - 21:15
Which Triumvir will you follow?
Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus )

In case split negotiations break down we have elections for next year...

Consul Vote (consuls may pick their co-consul)
1) Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) + ?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Flavius Sertorius (Aetius)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
2)Nerva Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Recall Flavius Sertorius (Aetius) as governor of Greece and replace with Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus )
1)Aye

Appoint Flavius Numertorius (JF) as Governor of Corsica Sardinia?
1)Aye

Force Deployments
1)Parthian War: 2 fleets,6 Legions, Herculiani, Gallica ,Apollinaris, Candidus
Cilician Pirates: 2 Fleets 2 Legions, Obeliscus

Trial of Metellus Cornelius Scipio
Presiding Censor Vopiscus Octavius (vale)
Presiding PraetorCaspiel Rex Tertius (Darth.) +12 votes due to oratory
Accused Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)
Crime Treason (Special Prosecution)

Censor Octavius speaks
"This man resisted the lawful roman state by needless fighting. His actions caused countless romans to die."

2)Exile

Trial of Lars Pedius
Presiding Censor Vopiscus Octavius (vale)
Presiding PraetorCaspiel Rex Tertius (Darth.) +12 votes due to oratory
Accused Lars Pedius (Zenith)
Crime Treason (Special Prosecution)

Censor Octavius speaks
"This man aided the rebels with his substantial funds and rejected our initial offer of clemency, he should now face his rightful punishment."

2)Exile

Trial of Kairos Varius
Presiding Censor Vopiscus Octavius (vale)
Presiding PraetorCaspiel Rex Tertius (Darth.) +12 votes due to oratory
Accused Kairos Varius (Meester)
Crime Defying the Edict of Sertorius

Censor Octavius speaks
"This young man is the son of the convicted traitor Sextus Varius. The senate has most generously offered his family clemency in return for contributing to the well being of the state financially, but rather than accepting this mercy, he has rejected it out of pride. Now the Senate must decide his fate."

3) Innocent

Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) Backed by pyrrhus + 12 votes
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13.10.2016 - 23:08
==Turn 27: Phase 3 has begun==
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14.10.2016 - 11:14

Battle of Tigranocerta
Flavius Sertorius (Aetius) (Balanced)
(2 Evocati + 2 Veterans + 6 Legions +3 skilll + 2 bonus)=21 strength
Parthian Commander(Balanced)
(12 Armies) = 12 strength
Battle Roll: 14 (+9 from greater strength) =23
Result: Decisive Victory

Moving eastward from Cilicia, Sertortius quickly liberated Antioch, the seleucid greeks being grateful to be freed of parthian rule. From rome arrived many reinforcements, and with these Sertorius organized Syria into a new province establishing allinaces with many of the eastern microstates and marched eastwards into armenia.Messengers arrived the Tigranocerta, the capital of the armenian allies was under assault and would fall soon. Marching at double pace, the romans emerged behind the parthian siege lines. Theree upon a field of dead brown grass the two armies engaged. The parthian cavalry proved superior but they could not press great advantage due to syrian archers amongst the roman lines causing grieverous harm. At last it seemd the parthians would unleash their cataphracts, but from within the city, the armenian cavalry emerged and charged into the parthian flank which was then supported by the romans. The parthian horde was set to flight and the king agreed to a new border with rome as well as a large war indemnity.


Flavius Sertorius (Aetius) gains 6 Popularity and 6 Influence
Flavius Sertorius (Aetius) gains a veteran legion, Legio I Parthica
Flavius Sertorius (Aetius) promotes Legio XII Apollinaris to Evocati
Flavius Sertorius (Aetius) gains 35 talents in war spoils

Roman Casualties
Few

Parthian Casualties
Great



Siege of Korakesion
Caspiel Rex Tertius (Darth.) (Flanking)
(1 Veteran + 2 Legions + 4 skill)=8 strength
Cilician Commander(Envelopment)
(3 Armise) = 3 strength
Battle Roll: 4 (+5 from greater strength) +4 from tactical counter=13
Result: Stalemate

The rocky fortress of Korakesion is almost impossible to take. Even after many assaults it holds, and it does not starve out because the pirates are sometimes able to get past the roman blockade and resupply the defender. The pirates hope the romans will give up their attempts to subdue them.


Caspiel Rex Tertius (Darth.) gains a veteran legion, Legio II Custodes


Roman Casualties
Minimal

Pirate Casualties
Minimal
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14.10.2016 - 17:09
==Turn 27: Phase 4 has begun==
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14.10.2016 - 18:35
Rip Darth
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15.10.2016 - 11:27
No one loves Darth
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15.10.2016 - 14:06
Eh maybe I should have put out recruiting posters/messages like Aetius and Pyrrhus

On the other other hand, the game goes on for just a single turn so I see no reason to get supporters. So eh

Edit: Just for keks, any rebels can join me and we'll go privateering

Edit 2: Syria Aetius. Color in Syria
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15.10.2016 - 14:09
Napisano od Darth., 15.10.2016 at 14:06

Eh maybe I should have put out recruiting posters/messages like Aetius and Pyrrhus

On the other other hand, the game goes on for just a single turn so I see no reason to get supporters. So eh

Edit: Just for keks, any rebels can join me and we'll go privateering

Edit 2: Syria Aetius. Color in Syria


I did not tell anyone to join me
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15.10.2016 - 14:12
Napisano od Darth., 15.10.2016 at 14:06

Eh maybe I should have put out recruiting posters/messages like Aetius and Pyrrhus

On the other other hand, the game goes on for just a single turn so I see no reason to get supporters. So eh

Edit: Just for keks, any rebels can join me and we'll go privateering

Edit 2: Syria Aetius. Color in Syria

k I'll join
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15.10.2016 - 14:14
Napisano od Pyrrhus, 15.10.2016 at 14:09

Napisano od Darth., 15.10.2016 at 14:06

Eh maybe I should have put out recruiting posters/messages like Aetius and Pyrrhus

On the other other hand, the game goes on for just a single turn so I see no reason to get supporters. So eh

Edit: Just for keks, any rebels can join me and we'll go privateering

Edit 2: Syria Aetius. Color in Syria


I did not tell anyone to join me

Well I got a message saying you asked that person hue...
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15.10.2016 - 14:19
Napisano od Zephyrusu, 15.10.2016 at 14:12

Napisano od Darth., 15.10.2016 at 14:06

Eh maybe I should have put out recruiting posters/messages like Aetius and Pyrrhus

On the other other hand, the game goes on for just a single turn so I see no reason to get supporters. So eh

Edit: Just for keks, any rebels can join me and we'll go privateering

Edit 2: Syria Aetius. Color in Syria

k I'll join


I wasn't serious at the time, but okay. Guess we're doing some privateering rogue trading



This is yours.
By Order,
Triumvir Rex
Bla bla bla bunch of cool sounding titles
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15.10.2016 - 14:23
Napisano od Darth., 15.10.2016 at 14:19



This is yours.
By Order,
Triumvir Rex
Bla bla bla bunch of cool sounding titles

I can't read shit
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15.10.2016 - 14:28
Napisano od Zephyrusu, 15.10.2016 at 14:23

I can't read shit

It allows you to consort with xenos, fuck with Inquisitors and do a whole shitload of Heresy, and get away with it all
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15.10.2016 - 15:24
Napisano od Darth., 15.10.2016 at 14:28

It allows you to consort with xenos, fuck with Inquisitors and do a whole shitload of Heresy, and get away with it all

So basically it makes me a Dark Angel?
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15.10.2016 - 16:34
==Turn 28: Phase 1 has begun==
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15.10.2016 - 16:38
So can I roll for Equite now or do I need to be with Pyrrhus
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15.10.2016 - 16:46
Napisano od Zephyrusu, 15.10.2016 at 16:38

So can I roll for Equite now or do I need to be with Pyrrhus


Only people with pyrrhus can and aren't you exiled or did darth seriously recall you, our most long time enemy to his side?
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15.10.2016 - 18:10
 Witch-Doctor (Moderator)
Double grain concession
1 to equite
Chariot game
Sponsor repeal of marian land bill
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15.10.2016 - 21:47
Donate all to western treasury
All governors should raise maximum land auxilliary forces and raise personal income

All non western players are expelled from populares
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